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Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Whenever I transpose my comments to HN, I usually do some light editing. The following comment is unedited because this headline kinda fired me up. Considering how Google’s treated AR and VR in the last 10 years, hyping people up then quietly pulling back support and finally cancellation after just 2-3 years, I don’t see this going well. They had a toehold 6-10 years ago which they could have easily kept iterating on…

wasn't Microsoft also in this race with the HoloLens?

Not past tense -- HoloLens is a product they charge real money for.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Whenever I transpose my comments to HN, I usually do some light editing. The following comment is unedited because this headline kinda fired me up. Considering how Google’s treated AR and VR in the last 10 years, hyping people up then quietly pulling back support and finally cancellation after just 2-3 years, I don’t see this going well. They had a toehold 6-10 years ago which they could have easily kept iterating on…

Google seems unfocused - AR is an example of this, their messaging platforms and failure to leverage Google voice for 10yrs after the acquisition are too. I’d bet on Apple, FB, or some new entry (harder without the underlying OS). DeepMind is the most interesting thing coming out of Google imo.

It's not impossible to "focus" Google but lets not pretend Google is making these decisions to focus on something or not. It's small groups of people or singular people who make these decisions and those visionaries can easily change their focus or be offered a more compelling role at a start up doing the same thing after they spend 12 months learning how to do it at Google.

I don't love Facebook/Meta but it looks like they put a lot of eggs into the Metaverse bucket. Google has never really done that. They have dabbled and because its Google people assume its going to be big or meaningful. But once people internally make enough progress to get promoted and move around internally its not going to continue to be supported without guidance from the top and the top doesnt care about AR/VR/Metaverse. Or at least they havnt until now.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Whenever I transpose my comments to HN, I usually do some light editing. The following comment is unedited because this headline kinda fired me up. Considering how Google’s treated AR and VR in the last 10 years, hyping people up then quietly pulling back support and finally cancellation after just 2-3 years, I don’t see this going well. They had a toehold 6-10 years ago which they could have easily kept iterating on…

Glass was not AR. It was a tiny screen you had to shift your focus to.

I should change my usernames to glasswasnotar because I feel like I am always saying that when people talk about glass and ar

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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This, but unironically. Under alternative systems you aren't going to choose what to look at

Yes, it's so important for me to choose between 16 different brands of the same thing, all owned by two massive monopoly megacorporations. Get bent.

Washing powder is the canonical example of this.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Google seems unfocused - AR is an example of this, their messaging platforms and failure to leverage Google voice for 10yrs after the acquisition are too. I’d bet on Apple, FB, or some new entry (harder without the underlying OS). DeepMind is the most interesting thing coming out of Google imo.

It's not impossible to "focus" Google but lets not pretend Google is making these decisions to focus on something or not. It's small groups of people or singular people who make these decisions and those visionaries can easily change their focus or be offered a more compelling role at a start up doing the same thing after they spend 12 months learning how to do it at Google. I don't love Facebook/Meta but it looks li…

I’m a little confused by your first sentence because it sounds like we’re mostly in agreement?

Google does a bunch of random things kind of haphazardly. Whether this is caused by incentive problems around promo or something else I don’t know.

I don’t think they compare favorably to Apple, Zuckerberg, or modern Microsoft. I’d guess it comes from the top.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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It seems that Google Glass was not ready for prime time when it launched. Now, as in the next couple of years, seems to be the inflection point for the whole ecosystem. Apple is also supposedly preparing for a launch of their glasses. I see tremendous use cases for these glasses in all sorts of workplaces from surgery, dermatology, hair stylists, factory assembly, horticulturists to potentially nefarious uses cases l…

You mean the brave new meta walled garden?

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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wasn't Microsoft also in this race with the HoloLens?

Not past tense -- HoloLens is a product they charge real money for.

And soon to be mass producing. They will be supplying 120k units the US army.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Whenever I transpose my comments to HN, I usually do some light editing. The following comment is unedited because this headline kinda fired me up. Considering how Google’s treated AR and VR in the last 10 years, hyping people up then quietly pulling back support and finally cancellation after just 2-3 years, I don’t see this going well. They had a toehold 6-10 years ago which they could have easily kept iterating on…

Google seems unfocused - AR is an example of this, their messaging platforms and failure to leverage Google voice for 10yrs after the acquisition are too. I’d bet on Apple, FB, or some new entry (harder without the underlying OS). DeepMind is the most interesting thing coming out of Google imo.

It hurts to see it the accidental implication that DeepMind came out of Google. DeepMind was one of the UK's greater recent creations and it got bought/absorbed for a pittance in exchange for custom TPUs.

I'll agree though that DeepMind would not have been able to exist really without Google's ongoing funding and hardware, so maybe it is Google's creation at this point.

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