In 3000 years archeologists will think we practiced Purge and Hunger Games. But Cold War was obviously a religious metaphor for climate warming.
Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
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Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#32> ...Christian Laes, a classicist at the University of Manchester. “But absence of evidence does not mean the phenomenon itself was absent.” I also see at least one comment here making this same argument. The article covers the evidence against, including, that disabled ancient Greeks lived to adulthood. The evidence cited in favor is Plutarch's assertion, and that "other societies" do it. That last is particularly w…
Table four from the Twelve Tables [1]:
> A father has the right to kill his deformed child.
These were laws in ancient Rome, not Greece, but the societies shared many beliefs and customs. Not that this is proof one way or the other about what was common practice, but people thought it was important enough to lay down in law. [[the father also had the right to kill any of his kids, so it's interesting they spell this case out explicitly]]
Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#33In 3000 years archeologists will think we practiced Purge and Hunger Games. But Cold War was obviously a religious metaphor for climate warming.
Dude get your facts right - the USSR and USA leaders were trying to bring global nuclear winter to thwart the global warming. They were willing to put humanity through suffering to save it. But their efforts were cut short by the deep state.
Which lead to the events in the documentary mad max.
Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there a name for being arbitrarily biased against a counterclaim? The simple fact that this is posed as a counterclaim itself seems to invoke skepticism, even when the original belief itself isn't even presented or has a poor basis itself. A weak counterclaim does not imply the claim to be truth.
I agree. Lately it seems that people who lay their ideas out and accept criticism are being destroyed by those who refuse to admit fault a priori
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Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#3572% of all human deaths each year are due to abortion...approx 30 million. Our governments subsidize (pay for) most of them. We are a cruel and unusual society. Spartans had nothing on us.
Hello, it appears your account is shadow banned. Just wanted to let you know because your comment didn't seem particularly inflammatory to deserve being removed.
As a response to your comment, I am curious if the numbers of abortions scale with the size of the population we are aborting from (if that makes sense) in comparison to the proportion of Spartans.
Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#36I really doubt spartans or other groups of people from ancient times in southern europe behaved like this.And for me the reason is simple: it would have been seen barbaric.For example circumcision was seen barbaric, everything that imposed the idea of man-made modifications to the innocence of a baby also skews more with this idea compared to what (at the time,and even compared to now) were very humanistic societies:…
Hello, it appears your account is shadow banned. I vouched for your comment so that it can be seen and commented on, because it seems like an otherwise normal comment.
As a response to your comment, I would agree, but also I'd modify that history isn't written by the victors, but the survivors and observers.
Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#37I haven’t read the archeologist’s work. I did read the article. The archeologist claims that evidence across the Aegean and Athens particularly shows weak babies were cared for until death. That’s fine. However we’re not discussing Athenian nor general Aegean baby care. We’re discussing Spartan care. Nothing in the article (and I could have missed it) proved evidence, from digs, against the idea of infanticide by the…
> Nothing in the article (and I could have missed it) proved evidence, from digs, against the idea of infanticide by the Spartans. Isn't the onus on the ones claiming that Spartans practiced systemic infanticide to provide the evidence that they did so?
Either way, Sparta is not Athens. They were different political and cultural systems.
Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#3872% of all human deaths each year are due to abortion...approx 30 million. Our governments subsidize (pay for) most of them. We are a cruel and unusual society. Spartans had nothing on us.
Hello, it appears your account is shadow banned. Just wanted to let you know because your comment didn't seem particularly inflammatory to deserve being removed. As a response to your comment, I am curious if the numbers of abortions scale with the size of the population we are aborting from (if that makes sense) in comparison to the proportion of Spartans.
How is his account shadow banned? You saw the comment. I saw the comment.
Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#3972% of all human deaths each year are due to abortion...approx 30 million. Our governments subsidize (pay for) most of them. We are a cruel and unusual society. Spartans had nothing on us.
Hello, it appears your account is shadow banned. Just wanted to let you know because your comment didn't seem particularly inflammatory to deserve being removed. As a response to your comment, I am curious if the numbers of abortions scale with the size of the population we are aborting from (if that makes sense) in comparison to the proportion of Spartans.
We don't enslave majority of population, we don't kill Helots with impunity or as a rite of passage either. We are not totalitarian dictatorship either, Sparta was.
So, the dwindling right of women to abort and not carry the unwanted pregnancy, that is being currently under heavy attack is fine by me. Women now have more rights then in Sparta or Grecks in general. Women can vote and arw citizens. I am fine keeping it that way.
Also, people likely downvote due to using "killing humans" in context that includes aborting in first trimester or aborting when the foetus is not expected to live or endangers the adult woman. It is manipulative way to frame it and I suspect you are well aware if it.
Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hello, it appears your account is shadow banned. Just wanted to let you know because your comment didn't seem particularly inflammatory to deserve being removed. As a response to your comment, I am curious if the numbers of abortions scale with the size of the population we are aborting from (if that makes sense) in comparison to the proportion of Spartans.
How is his account shadow banned? You saw the comment. I saw the comment.
We have the settings enabled to see them. Take a look at their post history, the majority have been silenced as soon as they're posted, and unless someone responds directly by vouching, nothing gets seen by those without explicitly opting in to see it.