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Depends on the conservative, but McCain, Dole -- those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics.

how do you think Vietnamese people should feel about McCain and Dole?

See what I mean about Reddit-like?

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he was involved with theranos

Probably more accurate to say 'fooled by Theranos'. I don't recall reading a single jot about his being part of the founding.

He was on the board. It's their job to know what's going on, but they just didn't care to look or maybe know how. The people on the board were there for prestige rather than serving any real function unfortunately.

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Little known fact: "Bob Dole has died" were his last words.

For better or worse, the reputation for referring to himself in the third person is one he shares with Julius Caesar.

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Depends on the conservative, but McCain, Dole -- those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics.

how do you think Vietnamese people should feel about McCain and Dole?

Dole fought in World War II.

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I always wonder if the Republicans nominated him in 1996 because they thought he could win or just as honorary thing given they probably couldn’t win with anyone. It felt like one of the most lopsided elections of my lifetime (I was too young to pay attention to politics when Dukakis ran.)

I don't think it was as lopsided as you think - Dole got 40.7% of the popular vote compared to Clinton's 49.7%, and he flipped five states in the electoral college. Even though the results were never really in doubt, that's not too bad of a showing against an incumbent president.

With the two parties' loyal voters locked in already, and these races pretty much being about the swing voters in the middle, this sounds like a landslide, in American politics.

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I don't think it was as lopsided as you think - Dole got 40.7% of the popular vote compared to Clinton's 49.7%, and he flipped five states in the electoral college. Even though the results were never really in doubt, that's not too bad of a showing against an incumbent president.

With the two parties' loyal voters locked in already, and these races pretty much being about the swing voters in the middle, this sounds like a landslide, in American politics.

It would be a landslide by today's standards, but those kinds of margins were pretty common in the 80's and 90's. You had a lot more swing voters and people who would split their tickets so you had bigger margins while also having less certainly about the outcome prior to the actual vote. People forget that in the 80's and 90's a democrat could win West Virginia and Kentucky and a republican could win places like California and New York.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the two parties' loyal voters locked in already, and these races pretty much being about the swing voters in the middle, this sounds like a landslide, in American politics.

It would be a landslide by today's standards, but those kinds of margins were pretty common in the 80's and 90's. You had a lot more swing voters and people who would split their tickets so you had bigger margins while also having less certainly about the outcome prior to the actual vote. People forget that in the 80's and 90's a democrat could win West Virginia and Kentucky and a republican could win places like Cal…

Even back then, that was a very healthy margin of victory. Reagan beat Carter by not much more than that.

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I always wonder if the Republicans nominated him in 1996 because they thought he could win or just as honorary thing given they probably couldn’t win with anyone. It felt like one of the most lopsided elections of my lifetime (I was too young to pay attention to politics when Dukakis ran.)

Hard to say. Considering that Biden got way more votes than Obama, I realized it was Obama riding Biden coat-tails all along. Biden was then the gifted orator it seems. Bill was lucky the economy did well I guess. I think Mick's shot in 2012 was also quite lopsided.

I think you're drawing the wrong conclusions from some numbers. Biden most likely got a lot of votes because of voter turnout, with his voters desperately wanting to get rid of Trump.

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Probably more accurate to say 'fooled by Theranos'. I don't recall reading a single jot about his being part of the founding.

He was on the board. It's their job to know what's going on, but they just didn't care to look or maybe know how. The people on the board were there for prestige rather than serving any real function unfortunately.

Yup, sadly read of testimony of one of them that they weren't really sure why they were there (on the board). Of course, not all, indeed maybe most, board members are not technical experts. The board is there to set general corp strategy, not to do code review, and are generally working under the assumption that the executives are not lying to them; executives who are found to be lying to the board are generally rapidly dismissed.

So, yes, I have a hard time blaming the board members who were used as much as the investors. I'm not sure there were ever any technically proficient board members, which also leads me to the conclusion that this was a planned fraud by Holmes, Balwani, etc.

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