YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park • Hacker News Board

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by enaaem » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 3:53 PM UTC

mortenjorck wrote: post #16

endisneigh wrote: post #6

People complain about misinformation and censorship (on Hacker News of all places) but where is it? https://youtu.be/R2EiuAVKFB0 I found the video by searching on YouTube https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=yeonmi+pa... Why exactly is this being upvoted? Give me a break.

The video is available via direct link, as you have demonstrated, but it’s delisted: https://mobile.twitter.com/TKDSayan/status/14658291871267143... The video is essentially hellbanned. [edit] It’s listed now if I click back to Park’s account page. Glitch or anti-Streisand maneuver? Impossible to tell.

It seems to be auto-banned and then put up again after manual review.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by throwaway4good » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 3:57 PM UTC

Woman that makes a living making up stories about North Korea gets a video demonitized.

Why is this riling up HN?

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 3:58 PM UTC

enaaem wrote: post #31

mortenjorck wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video is available via direct link, as you have demonstrated, but it’s delisted: https://mobile.twitter.com/TKDSayan/status/14658291871267143... The video is essentially hellbanned. [edit] It’s listed now if I click back to Park’s account page. Glitch or anti-Streisand maneuver? Impossible to tell.

It seems to be auto-banned and then put up again after manual review.

Visibility is in general controlled by the uploader, so without evidence that the website was preventing her from changing it, it seems much more likely that she just hit the wrong button and blamed it on Youtube before realizing her mistake.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by dudeinjapan » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 4:02 PM UTC

AzzieElbab wrote: post #27

YT censorship is dumb and immoral. Having said that, how on earth do you stick a Nike or Apple commercial in a middle of a video criticising China?

I'll buy my first pair of Nikes as soon as they start backing a real cause like the plight of the Uighurs (and ditch Kaepernick's woke silliness.)

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by zenlf » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 4:03 PM UTC

Apparently, the video can be found via search or on her page currently.

However, it was tweeted was two days ago.

It's unclear whether it's a bug on Youtube side or real censorship actually happened or user error.

At this stage this is not a valid censorship case against Youtube.

I would remove the post if I could.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by cdirkx » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 4:37 PM UTC

rory wrote: post #25

hollerith wrote: post #12

I dont run a YT channel, but "Restrictions: ad suitability," suggests that the video is still available (e.g., via URL), but Google is not recommending it because advertisers don't want to be associated with it because of the corpse in the thumbnail (term?).

Yeah it's still listed on her channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/YeonmiParkOfficial/videos . I'm curious what "visibility: unlisted" means. Would it show up in the feed of a subscriber?

Unlisted means (I believe) that a video won't show up in search or in a feed or on the creators page. You can only watch the video if you have a direct link.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by penjelly » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 4:46 PM UTC

sortof off topic but this woman strikes me as a mouthpiece for rightwing talking points. Not saying its all a lie but some stuff does strike me as embellished

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 4:55 PM UTC

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #20

dukeofdoom wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leaked Pfizer safety study. https://www.scribd.com/document/543857539/CUMULATIVE-ANALYSI...

> Review of the available data for this cumulative PM experience, confirms a favorable benefit: risk balance for BNT162b2 What is the claim here

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Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by lyoshenka » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 4:56 PM UTC

good8675309 wrote: post #29

Pinegulf wrote: post #7

If this is true: anyone got alternative apps to YT on android? Voting with my wallet.

People often say Odysee is a good alternative but it was acquired by Google so it has the same issue as Youtube. Then there is Rumble but it's a much poorer experience and somewhat of an echo chamber but that seems to be changing as a more diverse group of non-political creators move over there.

https://odysee.com/@Odysee/Does-Google-Own-Odysee

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 02, 2021, 5:04 PM UTC

butterfi wrote: post #22

rasengan wrote: post #3

The internet is increasingly getting censored. Boldened by the recent deplatforming of Alex Jones and Donald Trump as well as censorship of news that doesn’t fit their narratives has created a slippery slope. It’s time to take a hardline stance against censorship. If we don’t do it now, future generations will never forgive us.

Given that there's a long history of media manipulation in this country (e.g. Hearst, Yellow Journalism, etc), what would you determine qualifies as censorship? Personally I have no issue with blocking people who clearly are abusing their platforms for personal gain.

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