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Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by hluska »

selestify wrote: post #25
motohagiography wrote: post #17

I like this stuff because I think things like Ancient Aliens are the Subgenius and Discordianism of our time. The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. If I could coin a term for it, I would call it "p…

> The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. Could you expound on this? I’m afraid I don’t quite understand what you are saying

It sounds like David Icke. If you really need someone to expound on this, you could read the source but we’re both on HN and likely reasonably similar. Can I give you some loving advice??

Forget this. There’s nothing good in Icke. I’ve seen way too many brilliant hackers get sucked into David Icke’s bullshit on their way to a crash.

If you still really need closure, I can sum it up as the royal family, the elite and the ‘Illuminati’ are lizards, descended from aliens. Find architects who designed buildings for the Baha’i faith, then trace their contributions back to North American parliaments, legislatures and the like. Find the allusions to the Baha’i faith, find the allusions to Freemasonry and then you’ll see the projection of reality. Once you’ve seen the projection, you’re free from it.

Be safe. If you want to rap about the ideas with someone reasonably safe, I’m Greg and my email is in my profile. If you’re getting lost, I’ll give you my phone number.

Be safe and healthy.

Edit - The danger of Icke is that he takes basic geometry and civil engineering and somehow turns them into conspiracy. If you’re remotely scientific, you’ll see signs of Icke all around you. But some principles are principles because they work. We don’t need conspiracy theories to explain how professions grow.

Edit 2 - Don’t google David Icke. You’ll want the time back and I can’t offer refunds. :(

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by qrybam »

motohagiography wrote: post #17

I like this stuff because I think things like Ancient Aliens are the Subgenius and Discordianism of our time. The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. If I could coin a term for it, I would call it "p…

Reads like it was written by GPT-3.

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by winternett »

I'm very proud of my history of never clicking a Facebook ad in over 10 years... Most of them are really just shills for capturing targeting data to associate with my profile anyway.

This also explains why Facebook shows me wildly random ads for Viagra alternatives, yoga pants, conservative news, and better kitty litter than my current brand... All things which have no relevance to me, yet quite often triggering my urge to click "Hide Ad", but that too in itself is also a marker that creates a record I'm sure... What a mental health nightmare it's all turned into.

I log on a lot less to social media than I used to, and use AdBlock + UBlock everywhere ritually.

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by batshit_beaver »

hluska wrote: post #31
selestify wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. Could you expound on this? I’m afraid I don’t quite understand what you are saying

It sounds like David Icke. If you really need someone to expound on this, you could read the source but we’re both on HN and likely reasonably similar. Can I give you some loving advice?? Forget this. There’s nothing good in Icke. I’ve seen way too many brilliant hackers get sucked into David Icke’s bullshit on their way to a crash. If you still really need closure, I can sum it up as the royal family, the elite and…

What in tarnation

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by geoduck14 »

winternett wrote: post #33

I'm very proud of my history of never clicking a Facebook ad in over 10 years... Most of them are really just shills for capturing targeting data to associate with my profile anyway. This also explains why Facebook shows me wildly random ads for Viagra alternatives, yoga pants, conservative news, and better kitty litter than my current brand... All things which have no relevance to me, yet quite often triggering my u…

>This also explains why Facebook shows me wildly random ads for Viagra alternatives, yoga pants, conservative news, and better kitty litter than my current brand... All things which have no relevance to me

Well maybe if your cat practiced yoga, he wouldn't need better litter - or viagra.

I'm still thinking how to associate a cat on viagra with conservative news... maybe something about Bill O'Riley.

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by hluska »

batshit_beaver wrote: post #34
hluska wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like David Icke. If you really need someone to expound on this, you could read the source but we’re both on HN and likely reasonably similar. Can I give you some loving advice?? Forget this. There’s nothing good in Icke. I’ve seen way too many brilliant hackers get sucked into David Icke’s bullshit on their way to a crash. If you still really need closure, I can sum it up as the royal family, the elite and…

What in tarnation

I can’t make this shit up. The dude has published many books and found people who actually believe it all…

If this startup thing doesn’t work out, maybe I’ll just start a cult. :)

Edit - The second paragraph was a bad attempt at a joke. Don’t start cults. Fuck David Icke.

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by hackingthelema »

selestify wrote: post #25
motohagiography wrote: post #17

I like this stuff because I think things like Ancient Aliens are the Subgenius and Discordianism of our time. The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. If I could coin a term for it, I would call it "p…

> The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. Could you expound on this? I’m afraid I don’t quite understand what you are saying

In Discordianism, there is something called the Law of Fives[1], which says, 'all things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5.' There is also a memo from one founder to another quoted which says, 'I find the Law of Fives to be more and more manifest the harder I look.'

Robert Anton Wilson has some interesting personal experiments about this in his book Prometheus Rising, where you go looking for a quarter on the ground under different personal contexts[2]. Other instances are things like the 23 enigma[3] or ancient aliens.

I took motohagiography's comment to be on this phenomenon, where the state of mind, or how you prime the mind (e.g. with images or ideas), changes what you tend to find. It can be applied in all sorts of contexts -- prime the mind with ideas like conspiracy theories, and you see them everywhere. Fnord.

[1] http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/23.php

[2] https://nevalalee.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/looking-for-quart...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Enigma

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by motohagiography »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #27
motohagiography wrote: post #17

I like this stuff because I think things like Ancient Aliens are the Subgenius and Discordianism of our time. The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. If I could coin a term for it, I would call it "p…

what is the truth that ancient aliens is revealing? that people are gullible? i don’t get it

So called "ancient astronaut theory," is an ideology. The premise is the hypothetical that earth was once inhabited by extraterrestrials, and then when you view archeology and history through that lens, and provide explanations for any outstanding questions or uncertainties using this underlying assumption as a premise (could it be aliens? ancient astronaut theorists say yes!), you have a complete and very accessible critical theory of history that is very entertaining bunk.

I could write the same series as Ancient Objectivists, Ancient Anarchists, Ancient Socialists, Ancient Elites, etc. The details they use as justification do not illuminate the subject, they use archeological and historical stories as evidence of their theory - it's all the same thing.

The reason people get the satisfying feeling of "it all makes sense" is because the one stupid idea seems to be reinforced by relatively neutral facts, when in fact, it's just a dumb idea displayed along side facts.

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by wombatpm »

motohagiography wrote: post #17

I like this stuff because I think things like Ancient Aliens are the Subgenius and Discordianism of our time. The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. If I could coin a term for it, I would call it "p…

Don’t be mocking the one true goddess! Lest Eris cast you out, leaving you to partake of hotdogs with no hotdog buns for all eternity or 5 weeks —which ever comes first.

-Pope Wombatpm, KSC Burning Cow Cabal of lesser Chicago

Re: Facebook ads told me to become a certified cryptozoologist, so I did

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Post by wombatpm »

hackingthelema wrote: post #37
selestify wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The genius of it is that it is a note for note send up of ideologies of every kind, literally, the logic of an idea, where when you project it on something, the reflection doesn't illuminate the object so much as reinforce the underlying idea itself as a lens. Could you expound on this? I’m afraid I don’t quite understand what you are saying

In Discordianism, there is something called the Law of Fives[1], which says, 'all things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5.' There is also a memo from one founder to another quoted which says, 'I find the Law of Fives to be more and more manifest the harder I look.' Robert Anton Wilson has some interesting personal experiments about t…

My meds must be off because I’m seeing the fnords again
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