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Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#32

Post by anthk »

xxpor wrote: post #29
efxhoy wrote: post #25

Cool that they switched to `doas` from `sudo`. Another great OpenBSD tool gaining more adoption.

What's the 2 minute summary of why doas is better?

     >cat /etc/doas.conf

     permit persist :wheel
Now all the users belonging to wheel can run stuff as root. Done.

Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#33

Post by masklinn »

kingofclams wrote: post #31
xxpor wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the 2 minute summary of why doas is better?

Smaller, less features, ideally less vulnerabilities.

Although it is annoyingly and quite critically missing a replacement for `sudo -e` / sudoedit (or was last time I checked).

Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#34

Post by nick238 »

El_RIDO wrote: post #11
smitty1e wrote: post #7

Is Python totally DIY? Can't find it in the package search.

The packages are either python3 or python2 for the language, and prefixed py2- or py3- for any of the packaged modules. https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/ does support wildcards so you should find the packages using "python?" or "py?-*".

There is a pretty good set of maintainers/packagers that compile Python libs for Alpine, but if you stumble across one that doesn't have a binary built, you're going to have to install the whole build toolchain and get all the headers yourself. The pre-compiled manylinux* binary packages on PyPI aren't compatible with Alpine.

Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#35

Post by rubyist5eva »

anthk wrote: post #32
xxpor wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the 2 minute summary of why doas is better?

>cat /etc/doas.conf permit persist :wheel Now all the users belonging to wheel can run stuff as root. Done.

Sure this is a nice and concise (yet somewhat trite) example, but this can be done easily with 1 line in sudoers as well (and is usually configured like this by default anyway).

Not that doas isn't great, but this particular reason isn't that compelling (to me).

Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#36

Post by vmoore »

Does anyone know where there are screenshots of this on the website? I like to see how a desktop looks before I try a new distro. Seems absent on the site

Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#37

Post by smitty1e »

El_RIDO wrote: post #11
smitty1e wrote: post #7

Is Python totally DIY? Can't find it in the package search.

The packages are either python3 or python2 for the language, and prefixed py2- or py3- for any of the packaged modules. https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/ does support wildcards so you should find the packages using "python?" or "py?-*".

Ah, so. Python2 is past the "pining for the fjords" stage, I should think.

Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#38

Post by bluedays »

vmoore wrote: post #36

Does anyone know where there are screenshots of this on the website? I like to see how a desktop looks before I try a new distro. Seems absent on the site

You can install any Desktop Environment you want.

Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#39

Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

vmoore wrote: post #36

Does anyone know where there are screenshots of this on the website? I like to see how a desktop looks before I try a new distro. Seems absent on the site

Alpine is a bare bones / DIY distro (like Arch); it'll look like whatever DE you install.

Re: Alpine Linux 3.15

#40

Post by dougbarrett »

vmoore wrote: post #36

Does anyone know where there are screenshots of this on the website? I like to see how a desktop looks before I try a new distro. Seems absent on the site

From what I understand of alpine, it's commonly used for Docker images to provide a lightweight distro for your apps vs using something like ubuntu or debian which may include more than what's required.

I don't believe it's intended to be used in a desktop environment, but I could be wrong.

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