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If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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Re: If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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Post by aunty_helen »

freediver wrote: post #18

Yesterday I prepared a few years old Windows laptop for my daughter to use in school. It took me a few hours just to install updates, remove bloatware (my oh my, the amount is staggering!) and fix privacy settings. And this was for Windows 10 which I hear is a mild version of a mess that Windows 11 is. I was instantly reminded why I appreciate Apple software more.

In reality, you just don't realise how much bloatware osx has. Install a firewall and watch as studentd or 100 other services you never use contacts apple.

Edit: List of most recent and trying not to include things that may be useful to me syncdefaultsd, nsurlsessiond, apsd, cloudd, transparencyd, mapspushd, cloudphotod, akd, parsec-fbf, appstoreagent, AddressBookSourceSync, com.apple.iCloudHelper.xpc, familycircled, trustd, AssetCacheLocatorService.xpc, imagent, indentyservicesd, com.apple.sbd, studentd, airportd, configd, parsecd, com.apple.geod.xpc, com.apple.geod.xpc, avconferenced, rapportd, trustd, remindd, helpd, syspolicyd

Long list right.... that's from the previous 3 hours.

Re: If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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Post by rabuse »

jimbob45 wrote: post #11
sedeki wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate?

You cannot use anything outside of Safari on iOS [0]. FireFox/Chrome aren't allowed to have extensions on iOS for that reason (Regular Safari can because antitrust is MS-only). [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25850091

Let's not forget their hold back on push notifications so a lot of us can get out of their walled garden.

Re: If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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Post by moralestapia »

freediver wrote: post #18

Yesterday I prepared a few years old Windows laptop for my daughter to use in school. It took me a few hours just to install updates, remove bloatware (my oh my, the amount is staggering!) and fix privacy settings. And this was for Windows 10 which I hear is a mild version of a mess that Windows 11 is. I was instantly reminded why I appreciate Apple software more.

Yeah that sucks, but on OSX side I have to restart my computer every week or so because of forced updates.

Restarting really is a big deal for me as my workspace consists of several dozen open windows, some of them I have to login, navigate to a particular place, etc... also you lose your train of thought. It has gotten that bad for me, that I have to take screenshots before restarting every time, so I don't lose track of where I was.

I understand not everybody has my same use case but for me it truly is a PITA.

Of course, the alternative is to just click on "Install Later" every 8 hours for the rest of your life, and then the one time you miss that button for a few pixels and click on "Install Now" everything gets closed and obliterated in an instant. But yeah, at least now I have the latest version of Safari which I haven't used in 10 years.

Re: If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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Post by sabellito »

freediver wrote: post #18

Yesterday I prepared a few years old Windows laptop for my daughter to use in school. It took me a few hours just to install updates, remove bloatware (my oh my, the amount is staggering!) and fix privacy settings. And this was for Windows 10 which I hear is a mild version of a mess that Windows 11 is. I was instantly reminded why I appreciate Apple software more.

Definitely not defending windows here, but don't you find that macs come with bloatware as well? Safari, apple music, maps, etc - some of which you cannot uninstall as well.

Re: If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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Post by motoxpro »

Jcowell wrote: post #29
FinalBriefing wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is always behind on web technologies and hasn't implemented may features that have been around for a while. It only gets updated once a year, so any updates they do make are slow to hit users. This wouldn't be so bad if they were more up to date with Firefox and Chrome.

Is it behind web technologies or is it behind Google Chrome Features ?

Chrome, Firefox, Brave, etc.

Re: If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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Post by randcraw »

I've had more problems with Catalina than any earlier MacOS back going back past Lion.

Like many others have reported, Catalina drops my ethernet connection once or twice every day, regardless what adapter I use. (I've tried three different hardware devices so far. All fail in the same way.) Apple will not acknowledge the problem so there no hope of it being fixed.

If MacOS's services get any worse, I'll be left with a $2500 pumpkin.

Re: If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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Post by rp1 »

sabellito wrote: post #35
freediver wrote: post #18

Yesterday I prepared a few years old Windows laptop for my daughter to use in school. It took me a few hours just to install updates, remove bloatware (my oh my, the amount is staggering!) and fix privacy settings. And this was for Windows 10 which I hear is a mild version of a mess that Windows 11 is. I was instantly reminded why I appreciate Apple software more.

Definitely not defending windows here, but don't you find that macs come with bloatware as well? Safari, apple music, maps, etc - some of which you cannot uninstall as well.

Definitely a difference between first and third party bloatware though

Re: If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big thing won’t matter

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freediver wrote: post #18

Yesterday I prepared a few years old Windows laptop for my daughter to use in school. It took me a few hours just to install updates, remove bloatware (my oh my, the amount is staggering!) and fix privacy settings. And this was for Windows 10 which I hear is a mild version of a mess that Windows 11 is. I was instantly reminded why I appreciate Apple software more.

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