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US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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I imagine the moment these start being implemented there will be a bunch of how-to guides on the internet for ripping out the sensors and rewiring the connectors to perpetually give a "sober" reading.

This will absolutely sprout a new cottage industry. I knew a guy who happened to be a mechanic and knew exactly how to bypass his court-mandated breathalyzer. He was very, very mad when the state upgraded their equipment to a version he couldn't easily get around.

Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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Is this the first legally mandated user-hostile feature? Will it be the last?

No and no. The car industry has learned that they can increase profits by making legislators mandate things in the name of safety and security. See tire pressure monitoring for example.

> See tire pressure monitoring for example.

I am not sure I understand what you are saying. I appreciate knowing when my tire pressure is low.

Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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Can a seatbelt hug? Can a seatbelt love? Can a seatbelt … feel?

Carefull what you wish. A seatbelt maybe not yet but a seat for sure.

not to worry i will fart the free will out of that chair

Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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The way to stop drunk driving is to make driving OPTIONAL. Without adequate pedestrian and cycling facilities, people are forced to use public transit and cars to get to bars and restaurants. Make public transit intermittent, unreliable and dirty then stop service well before bars let out? Now there is ONLY cars as an option. Ride share has helped but it is much more expensive and is almost as much as the bar tab. No…

The way to stop drunk driving is for local prosecutors to indict drunk drivers in accidents for attempted homicide, and for local juries to then convict. Word will get around fast.

Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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This seems to be in the same category as seatbelts

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/automatic-seat-belt-terrible-id... Automatic seatbelts we’re tried. Was a horrible idea. I still have bad memories of those things as a kid.

IIRC it was a cheaper option of supplemental restraint system that the driver didn't control as a phase in period before airbags became the only acceptable SRS.

Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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Is it user hostile to prevent the user from killing someone? I've seen a kid sentenced to jail for DUI driving and killing people. I doubt the car was acting in his best interest when it let him do that.

Is it user hostile to prevent the user from speeding? From parking in front of a fire hydrant? From driving to an illegal gathering? All of those can result in jail and death ( including the last one, as those protest epidemic studies can attest to). How about driving without a license, or past curfew? Any action contrary to the user's wishes is user hostile. You are welcome to give inanimate objects (and those who c…

If you define anything against the user's wishes as user hostile I don't know why you are using that term. If you had said "I don't like this technology because it operates against the drunk driver's wishes and technology should not do that." then at least your position would be clear.

If you need a poorly defined buzzword like "user hostile" to make your objection sound more convincing, maybe it wasn't so great.

I just looked up the definition of user hostile and it doesn't seem to matcb your usage, either.

Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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Is this the first legally mandated user-hostile feature? Will it be the last?

Is it user hostile to prevent the user from killing someone? I've seen a kid sentenced to jail for DUI driving and killing people. I doubt the car was acting in his best interest when it let him do that.

> Is it user hostile to prevent the user from killing someone?

yes

Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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The way to stop drunk driving is to make driving OPTIONAL. Without adequate pedestrian and cycling facilities, people are forced to use public transit and cars to get to bars and restaurants. Make public transit intermittent, unreliable and dirty then stop service well before bars let out? Now there is ONLY cars as an option. Ride share has helped but it is much more expensive and is almost as much as the bar tab. No…

The way to stop drunk driving is for local prosecutors to indict drunk drivers in accidents for attempted homicide, and for local juries to then convict. Word will get around fast.

Humans are social creatures, this will change nothing, there's plenty of full jail's in the US to demonstrate stricter laws don't necessarily work.

Re: US infrastructure bill includes law that aims to end drunk driving

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Is this the first legally mandated user-hostile feature? Will it be the last?

This seems to be in the same category as seatbelts

I suppose as long as the built in breathalyser merely makes a loud beeping noise the whole time you're driving if your over the limit, this would be fine.
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