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Then that’s a problem. If my content is worth something then I should be paid or is should have a delete button. This isn’t trivial. I’m well versed in copyright. I have copyrights and receive in software, and from record labels. Compensation or deletion, there is no middle ground. Period
How deep does this go?
Why should they? The comments are handy years on. Use a pseudonym?
If my comments are not handy, delete them. If they are handy then I deserve compensation. If I created it I can destroy it. If I created it and was not compensated then I maintain ownership and copyright control. Delete them now! This has been fought in courts and won.
HN's approach hasn't changed since the last time you brought this up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23622865 . Sending aggressive emails to other departments at YC isn't going to make it change, and neither is posting metathreads to HN. For users who might not know about the approach we take—here's a typical response I send to emails: HN doesn't remove entire account histories, because that would gut the threa…
“Unfair” is not a word I care about. “Fair use”, “pay for hire”, “ownership” and “compensation” are words I care about. Threaten me with ban, ok, get ready. Pay me or delete. You don’t own my content cause you didn’t pay me. Pay me or delete. Period.
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If my comments are not handy, delete them. If they are handy then I deserve compensation. If I created it I can destroy it. If I created it and was not compensated then I maintain ownership and copyright control. Delete them now! This has been fought in courts and won.
Your compensation is participation in the forum; you benefit from everyone else posting content.
(Look Dang, no name calling)
HN's approach hasn't changed since the last time you brought this up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23622865 . Sending aggressive emails to other departments at YC isn't going to make it change, and neither is posting metathreads to HN. For users who might not know about the approach we take—here's a typical response I send to emails: HN doesn't remove entire account histories, because that would gut the threa…
> HN doesn't remove entire account histories, because that would gut the threads the account had participated in, which would be unfair to the other users in those threads. “Unfair” is not a word I care about. “Fair use”, “pay for hire”, “ownership” and “compensation” are words I care about. Threaten me with ban, ok, get ready. Pay me or delete. You don’t own my content cause you didn’t pay me. Pay me or delete. Peri…
You weren't hired by YCombinator as a writer, nor was any contract for employment or payment negotiated as a term for your use of this forum. If you believe you're entitled to monetary compensation for your comments, then feel free to get a lawyer.
You can't, and won't, because even if you could make a case that you own your comments, no one is under any obligation to pay for something you literally gave away.
Mind you, I'm sympathetic to your cause - I'd like the option to at least delete my older comments, I'd very much prefer to be able to delete or at least suspend my account like on Reddit and/or mass delete my comments. Somehow other forums get away with that but for whatever reason Hacker News is sacrosanct and doesn't have to play be the rules of common decency that the rest of the web does.
But your argument here is plainly irrational and probably legally untenable. HN is not going to pay you, and they're not deleting your comments. Just accept that and move on with life.
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> HN doesn't remove entire account histories, because that would gut the threads the account had participated in, which would be unfair to the other users in those threads. “Unfair” is not a word I care about. “Fair use”, “pay for hire”, “ownership” and “compensation” are words I care about. Threaten me with ban, ok, get ready. Pay me or delete. You don’t own my content cause you didn’t pay me. Pay me or delete. Peri…
>Pay me or delete. You don’t own my content cause you didn’t pay me. Pay me or delete. Period. You weren't hired by YCombinator as a writer, nor was any contract for employment or payment negotiated as a term for your use of this forum. If you believe you're entitled to monetary compensation for your comments, then feel free to get a lawyer. You can't, and won't, because even if you could make a case that you own you…
TOS could be construed as a contract. In fact, it is. It’s been tested.
It’s not ‘given’ if it’s under terms of service. There was in fact, a contract.
You are wrong. Pay or delete
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>Pay me or delete. You don’t own my content cause you didn’t pay me. Pay me or delete. Period. You weren't hired by YCombinator as a writer, nor was any contract for employment or payment negotiated as a term for your use of this forum. If you believe you're entitled to monetary compensation for your comments, then feel free to get a lawyer. You can't, and won't, because even if you could make a case that you own you…
> You weren't hired by YCombinator as a writer, nor was any contract TOS could be construed as a contract. In fact, it is. It’s been tested. It’s not ‘given’ if it’s under terms of service. There was in fact, a contract. You are wrong. Pay or delete
If it is, it's not a contract which obligates YCombinator to pay you anything. That sort of thing has to specifically be in the contract... you don't just get paid because "it's a contract," that isn't how contracts work.
>It’s not ‘given’ if it’s under terms of service. There was in fact, a contract.
Yes it is. Again, the existence of a contract, alone, doesn't automatically obligate payment.
Most platforms have terms of service under which you explicitly relinquish all rights to anything you post to the platform, to use in any way they wish, without compensation, forever in perpetuity throughtout the universe. Hacker News' terms of service are here: https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/ nowhere is an obligation to pay for content mentioned.
>You are wrong. Pay or delete
You and your alts have fun in arbitration then, let us know how it goes.
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> You weren't hired by YCombinator as a writer, nor was any contract TOS could be construed as a contract. In fact, it is. It’s been tested. It’s not ‘given’ if it’s under terms of service. There was in fact, a contract. You are wrong. Pay or delete
>TOS could be construed as a contract. In fact, it is. It’s been tested. If it is, it's not a contract which obligates YCombinator to pay you anything. That sort of thing has to specifically be in the contract... you don't just get paid because "it's a contract," that isn't how contracts work. >It’s not ‘given’ if it’s under terms of service. There was in fact, a contract. Yes it is. Again, the existence of a contrac…
That's exactly how a contract works. Contract specifies transaction. How do you not know this. transaction, entails something for something. A Transaction is never something for nothing. This is basic. You should know this.
HN is flagging and blocking my posts. alts are necessary.
> fun in arbitration
Typical corporate speak. If only hacker news would be able to see you, had you not shadow banned me.
HN's approach hasn't changed since the last time you brought this up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23622865 . Sending aggressive emails to other departments at YC isn't going to make it change, and neither is posting metathreads to HN. For users who might not know about the approach we take—here's a typical response I send to emails: HN doesn't remove entire account histories, because that would gut the threa…