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Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

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Post by gorwell »

feoren wrote: post #5

Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…

Oh please. Usenet was a free speech platform. IRC was a free speech platform. The 90s internet was a free speech ecosystem and the prevailing ethos was anti censorship. And guess what? It wasn't an endless hellscape. It was great, mostly.

We're just caught up in the middle of a moral panic and the church ladies from SNL have come out of the woodwork, flapping their arms about how everything is s/satanic/racist.

Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

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Post by amadeuspagel »

feoren wrote: post #5

Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…

Right now, you are using this thing called the internet. There's a lot of "hate speech" on it, but it doesn't seem to drive everyone else, including you, away.

Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

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Post by that_guy_iain »

feoren wrote: post #5

Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…

Uncensorable and anonymous just means it's going to end up having kiddie porn and rape sites.

I often wonder if people who create these sites are truly blind to what ends up on them?

Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

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Post by varelse »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #33
feoren wrote: post #5

Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…

Uncensorable and anonymous just means it's going to end up having kiddie porn and rape sites. I often wonder if people who create these sites are truly blind to what ends up on them?

Mostly sociopaths who don't care because their brains are wired not to do so. What's interesting is why evolution selects for sociopathic brains among us. They are the psychological cuckoos stealing from everyone else. Evolution is weird.

Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

#35

Post by that_guy_iain »

gorwell wrote: post #31
feoren wrote: post #5

Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…

Oh please. Usenet was a free speech platform. IRC was a free speech platform. The 90s internet was a free speech ecosystem and the prevailing ethos was anti censorship. And guess what? It wasn't an endless hellscape. It was great, mostly. We're just caught up in the middle of a moral panic and the church ladies from SNL have come out of the woodwork, flapping their arms about how everything is s/satanic/racist.

I remember both of those platforms having problems with disgusting illegal content.

Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

#36

Post by threatofrain »

gorwell wrote: post #31
feoren wrote: post #5

Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…

Oh please. Usenet was a free speech platform. IRC was a free speech platform. The 90s internet was a free speech ecosystem and the prevailing ethos was anti censorship. And guess what? It wasn't an endless hellscape. It was great, mostly. We're just caught up in the middle of a moral panic and the church ladies from SNL have come out of the woodwork, flapping their arms about how everything is s/satanic/racist.

If saying "good luck with your idea I don't like" is the expression of "moral panic" and church lady from SNL, then that seems like a rather mild panic. Compare that to legislative action to dictate the content of science and history classrooms on matters of race and sex.

Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

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Post by cryaboutit »

feoren wrote: post #5

Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…

Regardless of your feelings and views, that is still free speech whether you like it or not. What you want is a "platform that only allows what I deem acceptable allowed to be posted". That already exists, it's called reddit. Edit: And the best part is this is still true regardless of how much you downvote it

Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

#38

Post by ajvs »

izzydata wrote: post #27

I found it amusing that this "nofilter.org" is blocked on my companies network. Not very unstoppable and uncensorable apparently.

Try nofilter.eth, they mention that domain is the only weakness and this decentralised domain can circumvent blocking.

Re: NoFILTER – free speech blogging app and content on IPFS

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Post by lazyeye »

Imnimo wrote: post #7
feoren wrote: post #5

Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…

They say it's "undeplatformable", but it's really just a way of screaming into the void because no one is going to want to dig through a pile of trash to find out what they're saying. I'd say it's a great win-win. They get to spout whatever they want, and no one has to hear it.

As compared to big tech which gets to "spout whatever they want" via censorship and controlling the discourse. And everyone has to hear it.
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