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It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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It's a plausible theory, but it doesn't explain the long queues of container ships waiting to be unloaded.

Certainly shutting down the economy is a factor too.

From a cursory glance at I-5 traffic outside my window, besides for ~5 weeks in 2020, it does not seem like the economy was shut down.

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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For anyone else thrown off by the use of "MP3" to refer to anything other than the file format, here's https://medium.com/alpha-beta-blog/the-three-stages-of-monet...

it's 2021... People should just switch to Opus. The lower latency should wrap up the supply/demand buffering problems nicely.

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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It's a plausible theory, but it doesn't explain the long queues of container ships waiting to be unloaded.

The articles does talk about lack of productivity and "not enough labor". Just my guess that that would could be likely causing bottlenecks as there isn't enough staff/equipment/ machinery to unload everything in time.

Check the graphic here - https://www.bbc.com/news/58926842

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank god we have crypto & NFTs to help people use all this free cash

This is not even a joke. Crypto has absolutely helped absorb the inflation.

No, it hasn’t. As money spirals deeply into inflation, crypto holdings and equities will have to be liquidated so that people have money to live off of. This will only feed into the inflation more. Investments haven’t absorbed inflation. They’ve delayed it slightly.

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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I'm honestly surprised inflation hasn't been worse than what we've already seen. 10-year treasury yields are still well below their 2019 levels and are currently below their levels from Q2 of this year.

I’m not an economist, but it’s hard to shake the feeling that the CPI is gamed somehow, or at least the official government numbers do not reflect the bubble of the US I live in. My friends and family are seeing record wages and investment growth, but when my generation cohort looks at housing and all the numbers there are proportionally even higher, and people are selling 3 year old cars for nearly the nominal price…

There was an article the other week from Canada about their CPI (I can't find it right now). Their CPI calculation was using prices that were half those available in stores (butter was one product, there are large variations in prices for some primary products in Canada because of producer's co-operatives particularly in dairy), and used sizes for some products that haven't existed for decades.

CPI calculations are very tricky. Deflation in telecoms, for example, has been very understated because how do you compare a data plan with a voice plan (in the UK, they had to adjust two decades of CPI numbers because of this calculation error). Imo, we place far too much reliance on CPI which is, after all, only one measure of inflation. Everyone seems to believe that prices are rising faster than CPI, and they would probably be right (I am in the UK, food prices in Canada particularly are...out of this world...particularly for meat, which seems to cost at least 3x the price here).

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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It seems like there isn’t enough data backing up these claims, or at least not in convenient form. Where are the graphs of things like container throughput at major ports? Compare with the pandemic where it’s much easier to understand whether things are getting better or worse.

Also, economic growth depends on the ability to remove bottlenecks and improve productivity. Yes, there is always another bottleneck. But idea that removing one bottleneck is pointless because there will be another one seems like giving up on growth?

In particular, it seems unlikely that there is no way to build more housing.

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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Demand growth is what we want. Our economy has been largely demand-limited for a while. Demand growth boosts GDP growth.

Corporations are sitting on huge piles of cash, so they're not investment-limited. Any labor market tightness raises wages, which have been mostly stagnant for a long time (until very recently). Wage growth is also good.

If wage growth squeezes profits, then that's also good from a wealth inequality point of view.

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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Seems like all that free money and no one working has definitely caused a supply issue ... yet everyone has tons of money furthering pushing up demand yet supply to meet the demand has shrunk. For those who push for a universal basic income where large groups of people do not work ... do not help produce the supply only push up the demand. Why do you think UBI is still a good idea and you are perfectly fine with how…

Because the obvious response to insufficient supply is to make more stuff, thereby growing the overall real economy. Yes, it's a lagging function. But it's frankly insane to insist that today's transient supply chain issues mean that people need to be paid less than a living wage in general...

It's similar to the old argument over slavery. Yes, removing slavery causes large realignments in the economic system. But overall removing slavery grows the economy, both by encouraging automation of jobs people don't want to do and by increasing the number of people buying stuff and performing more productive labor. Add in additional points about recognizing basic human dignity as needed.

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right on the negative real yield. My thinking was that, ceteris paribus, if expected inflation is rising I would expect interest rates to rise as well. QE has likely been playing a large role in muting this effect.

The metric you want is the breakeven rate, the difference between nominal Treasury yields and TIPS yields (which are indeed very negative). https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10YIE The Fed is artificially holding real yields negative on the short end for years at a time to enable money-losing ventures to "prosper" in order to "stimulate" the economy. It gets people working and society running but the long-term misal…

There is actually a parallel effect of QE that no-one really wrote about: it causes a shortage of risk-free assets, and makes it harder for savers to fund liabilities.

I can believe that QE had a positive portfolio effect in the early 2010s. But no-one really acknowledged the downsides (it took them most of the 2010s to work out why QE "worked").

So we have the amazing situation where you will get funding for a project, but only if you promise to lose money. Investment into real assets is extremely low, chemicals and O&G are trading on mid-single digit P/E ratios, and are furiously trying to return capital...whilst we have massive shortages...it is a very unusual situation. And, imo, the cause of this is the shortage of risk-free assets (because creating this shortage, due partly to regulatory restrictions, did not mean that investors suddenly started making investments into the real economy...most couldn't...they just had to buy more "risk-free" assets from corporates who already had too much money or PE funds that were playing the capital cycle...ofc, no central banker understands that some institutions are limited, the textbook doesn't teach that, they don't understand it).

Re: It’s mostly a demand shock, not a supply shock, and it’s everywhere

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> Further, those who left the labor force during COVID don’t seem particularly likely to come back, as most say they don’t want a job, and many are over 65 and are likely permanently retired

Who was asked, and who did the asking to arrive at "most say"?

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