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After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

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Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

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I agree. I was affected by drunken bicyclist once. They hit my stroller and injured my baby.

It's high time we mandated this kind of system on all human piloted systems.

Bicycles, golf carts, roller skates, etc.

They should require a full breathalyzer test and full ongoing facial motion detection to ensure safe piloting of the vehicle.

Safety first, always.

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

#32

I agree. I was affected by drunken bicyclist once. They hit my stroller and injured my baby. It's high time we mandated this kind of system on all human piloted systems. Bicycles, golf carts, roller skates, etc. They should require a full breathalyzer test and full ongoing facial motion detection to ensure safe piloting of the vehicle. Safety first, always.

Don't forget Power Wheels.

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

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They're really working on making automobiles a lot safer by installing breathalyzers in every car. Exciting times! https://time.com/6086981/bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-brea...

The wording in the actual bill looks vague enough that I hope this is more for show than for actual implementation.

It specifically requires non-contact sensors that can “accurately” detect blood alcohol level of the driver. It may be possible to detect trace exhaled alcohol in the air, but you’re never going to get accurate blood alcohol measurements from proximity alone.

In the unlikely event that such a system made it to market, it would quickly become common knowledge among alcoholics that it could be defeated by rolling down your window to get more airflow through the cabin. More airflow means trace alcohol in the air is diluted and blown away. Reading goes to zero.

The bill also requires that the technology limit the operation of a vehicle after impairment is detected. There’s no way a system that suddenly causes a vehicle to slow down to pedestrian speeds could be considered safe for use on freeways. Can you imagine someone’s car slowing to a crawl on the freeway and forcing them to move at low speeds on the shoulder because their distraction detection system had a false positive? Even a false positive rate of 0.001% would mean a lot of us would pass a car experiencing a false positive on our commute every week. Awful.

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

#34

This whole time I've been confused how investing more money in roads is compatible with our climate goals. Should we not trying to decommission roads and encourage people to move to denser, walkable and cyclable city centers?

You'd still need most of the roads for logistical reasons. Cities need food, a whole lot of food, and it has to come from somewhere it can actually be grown.

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

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I agree. I was affected by drunken bicyclist once. They hit my stroller and injured my baby. It's high time we mandated this kind of system on all human piloted systems. Bicycles, golf carts, roller skates, etc. They should require a full breathalyzer test and full ongoing facial motion detection to ensure safe piloting of the vehicle. Safety first, always.

Don't forget Power Wheels.

Absolutely I don't know why power wheels would be left out.

Anytime a human pilots a machine, it increases their risk of injuring another person.

We need to reduce these risks for safety.

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

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post #15

The $1trn headline makes me expect something to excite the imagination... A roman aquaduct wow factor. Something to marvel at. Am I being shallow? Does it make bad sense to cut a $100bn slice for something epic? A hypersonic monorail perhaps?

The headline price is an artifact of congressional accounting. It is an estimate of the 10-year cost.

The MSM uses that number when their corporate masters want you to be against the spending. They actually explain why it is a fairly meaningless number when they want the spending.

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

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post #15

The $1trn headline makes me expect something to excite the imagination... A roman aquaduct wow factor. Something to marvel at. Am I being shallow? Does it make bad sense to cut a $100bn slice for something epic? A hypersonic monorail perhaps?

> The $1trn headline makes me expect something to excite the imagination A country running out of money and going into hyperinflation via money printing ? Exciting enough for you ?

The dollar is incredibly unlikely to hyper inflate. There is a big middle ground of damaging inflation that is not hyperinflation though

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

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post #36
post #15

The $1trn headline makes me expect something to excite the imagination... A roman aquaduct wow factor. Something to marvel at. Am I being shallow? Does it make bad sense to cut a $100bn slice for something epic? A hypersonic monorail perhaps?

The headline price is an artifact of congressional accounting. It is an estimate of the 10-year cost. The MSM uses that number when their corporate masters want you to be against the spending. They actually explain why it is a fairly meaningless number when they want the spending.

$100bn/year is still an astronomical amount of money.

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

#39

I agree. I was affected by drunken bicyclist once. They hit my stroller and injured my baby. It's high time we mandated this kind of system on all human piloted systems. Bicycles, golf carts, roller skates, etc. They should require a full breathalyzer test and full ongoing facial motion detection to ensure safe piloting of the vehicle. Safety first, always.

asshole move to mock someone’s experience with the impact of drunk driving with sarcasm.

why don’t you try actually making an argument?

I don’t really care about this either way, but unless you can point to statistics on deaths due to drunk bicycle riding, this is a stupid slippery slope.

Re: After months of delay, the House passes infrastructure bill

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They're really working on making automobiles a lot safer by installing breathalyzers in every car. Exciting times! https://time.com/6086981/bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-brea...

The wording in the actual bill looks vague enough that I hope this is more for show than for actual implementation. It specifically requires non-contact sensors that can “accurately” detect blood alcohol level of the driver. It may be possible to detect trace exhaled alcohol in the air, but you’re never going to get accurate blood alcohol measurements from proximity alone. In the unlikely event that such a system mad…

About your last paragraph: the goal of these measurements would of course be to prefect you from driving at all when alcohol is detected. Suggesting that the idea is that people are slowed down on a freeway because of this seems absurd.
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