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Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by dx034 »

Any info on what DC they use? So far they've run everything themselves which made them slower to expand but was much cheaper to run. If they now use other DC providers it would explain why they only offer the higher margin cloud servers there. But would be curious if anyone knows where the data center is physically located. With their other ones they're also quite open about it so I was surprised they didn't mention it here.

EDIT: They do mention somewhere on their side that it's a third party DC. So probably no option to offer dedicated servers there (at least not at the same price as in their other locations). Would still be curious which one it is.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by atonse »

pantalaimon wrote: post #21
erwan wrote: post #8

For me, Hetzner, Starlink, and Tailscale are 2014-era startups: stellar products that turn you into a zealous militant for the companies. This is a very exciting development. I am very much looking forward to their dedicated offering extending to the US.

How is Tailscale, just another VPN provider, comparable to Hetzner and Starlink? I smell covert advertisement…

I’d put myself in the camp of zealous Tailscale customers.

I’ve used wireguard for years and Tailscale solved every single complaint I had about Wireguard.

Their ACL management could use a lot of polish but moving to them and paying for the service was the easiest decision to make after how well it worked. And the product has worked flawlessly for us.

Not a paid advertisement. Just someone who never ever thinks about wireguard provisioning anymore.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by config_yml »

It's great so see more investment by European infrastructure providers like Hetzner, Scaleway and more recently Infomaniak.

Even though they're years behind in terms of features, their base offerings have improved a lot over time and they can at least compete on cost.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by trulyrandom »

kenniskrag wrote: post #15

I like hetzner but they do not support dnssec yet. https://docs.hetzner.com/dns-console/dns/general/dnssec/

That's a good thing.

Besides, what is holding you back from setting up DNSSEC? It's not as if Hetzner doesn't support manually managing your DNSSEC-related records. Having your registrar manage your DNSSEC deployment kind of defeats the point.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by throwaway277360 »

Vespasian wrote: post #30
throwaway277360 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I changed my country on that page to US but all the prices still seem to be in euros? It would be great if they let me see more detail about the instance types without having to sign up for an account. I'm not sure if I want to try it out, and I'm lazy, so I probably just won't now.

Their FAQ mention that prices will be in Euros. Scroll down on that page. Specs should be there. Or do you mean something different?

I just mean prices. It's difficult but not impossible for them to do a currency conversion in-browser... just one of those things that helps convert customers, funny that they don't do it.

Here is why me having to do the conversion is annoying.

Pricing at 1 euro = 1.1579126540169 usd:

- Traffic: 20TB included, over that is $1.1579126540169 TB/month

- Instances: $0.0081053885781183 /hr, $0.0127370391941859 hr, $0.023158253080338 hr, $0.0440006808526422 /hr, $0.092633012321352 /hr

- Backups: 20% of instance price (so for first instance, $0.00162107771 ? )

- Volumes: $0.046316506160676 GB/month

- Snapshots: $0.011579126540169 GB/month

I'm willing to bet my currency conversion rate and math precision are incorrect (we all know precision is hard) and customers might get pissed if they think they're getting overcharged when they do the math incorrect on their side. A pricing calculator would help.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by jrochkind1 »

ptman wrote: post #19
o_m wrote: post #14

I don't know how to feel about this. One the one hand this is good for sites that needs to be more global. But I mainly build stuff for Europe and I don't want anything to do with USA when storing personal data. I hope they keep the seperation between Europe and US clear.

I think the main thing for GDPR is that US based employees should not have access to manage EU datacenters remotely.

That surprises me (not that I'm particularly educated on this), any links to more info on why GDPR requires that?

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

olavgg wrote: post #10

I've had a the smallest cloud instance for a few years now, it is in fact really good and fast. 1vcpu with 2GB ram is plenty for a full stack web application + a database. IO is also very good with stable ~8000 iops write performance for 4k sync. Compared to Azure VM instances, Hetzner offers like 100x more performance for each $ spent.

Interestingly, I have used racknerd.com from lowendbox.com deals and it works quite nicely for me. No hiccups.

They undercut linode/vultr guys like many other leb providers so you should try them as well. Leb has good deals for ultra low cost vps

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by kenniskrag »

trulyrandom wrote: post #34
kenniskrag wrote: post #15

I like hetzner but they do not support dnssec yet. https://docs.hetzner.com/dns-console/dns/general/dnssec/

That's a good thing. Besides, what is holding you back from setting up DNSSEC? It's not as if Hetzner doesn't support manually managing your DNSSEC-related records. Having your registrar manage your DNSSEC deployment kind of defeats the point.

I have to push the hashes (DS records of the ksk) to the parent zone (tld). I think that only can do my domain registrar.

Re: Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA)

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Post by tmikaeld »

o_m wrote: post #14

I don't know how to feel about this. One the one hand this is good for sites that needs to be more global. But I mainly build stuff for Europe and I don't want anything to do with USA when storing personal data. I hope they keep the seperation between Europe and US clear.

If you setup the server in the EU why would anyone in US have access to it?
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