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Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by theurbandragon »

gitgud wrote: post #9

> "The metaverse is bullshit because it already exists, and it's called the internet > Being 'inside' a virtual world was never really the important part" Well, the facebook keynote presents a compelling argument how social interaction with VR can be more meaningful than through a 2D screen in many situations. However, what IS bullshit, is the display of obviously fake demonstrations with highly experimental and expe…

What percentage of total internet traffic runs though Facebook and how much "market share" will be enough?

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

nowherebeen wrote: post #21
gitgud wrote: post #9

> "The metaverse is bullshit because it already exists, and it's called the internet > Being 'inside' a virtual world was never really the important part" Well, the facebook keynote presents a compelling argument how social interaction with VR can be more meaningful than through a 2D screen in many situations. However, what IS bullshit, is the display of obviously fake demonstrations with highly experimental and expe…

Makes me wonder if that's the whole point. Kind of like a carrot on a stick. While Facebooks business practices continues as normal.

>Makes me wonder if that's the whole point.

A distraction from all the criticism they are currently receiving.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#34

Post by watercooler_guy »

heavyset_go wrote: post #5

I'm sure Facebook is really excited to build a space they own and control completely, as well as have the ability to take a cut of all sales in it. Building a digital company town is right up Facebook's alley.

Zuckerberg did state, for this interview back in July (https://www.theverge.com/22588022/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-c...), that

> ...just like you have the W3C that helps set standards around a bunch of the important internet protocols and how people build the web, I think there will need to be some of that here, too, for defining how developers and creators can build experiences that allow someone to take their avatar and their digital goods and their friends, and be able to teleport seamlessly between all these different experiences.

I'm sure Facebook is looking to have a big and profitable presence in the metaverse, but the point is that it's not one big walled garden like Facebook, but more like the Web as a whole.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#35

Post by rklaehn »

I think people should not underestimate this.

The presentation is cringeworthy, but VR is very attractive for teenagers and preteens. I know this from personal experience with my kids.

Same with the concept of NFTs. Using real money to pay for an in game asset like a fortnite skin is completely natural to them.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#36

Post by prawn »

gugagore wrote: post #23
VRay wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’re you talking about? You can make a low end VR headset out of a $100 smartphone and a $5 plastic box today 5-10 years after VR starts to really take off, you’ll be able to get a decent standalone VR headset for $200 or less. They’ll probably be cheaper to make than laptops or TVs in the long run because of the smaller displays.

How am I going to have a video chat while I wear VR goggles covering half my face?

Avatars and eye-tracking.

https://www.oculus.com/workrooms/

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by fouc »

VRay wrote: post #20
gitgud wrote: post #9

> "The metaverse is bullshit because it already exists, and it's called the internet > Being 'inside' a virtual world was never really the important part" Well, the facebook keynote presents a compelling argument how social interaction with VR can be more meaningful than through a 2D screen in many situations. However, what IS bullshit, is the display of obviously fake demonstrations with highly experimental and expe…

What’re you talking about? You can make a low end VR headset out of a $100 smartphone and a $5 plastic box today 5-10 years after VR starts to really take off, you’ll be able to get a decent standalone VR headset for $200 or less. They’ll probably be cheaper to make than laptops or TVs in the long run because of the smaller displays.

Smaller displays doesn't necessarily mean cheaper, I would expect requirements are higher for screens kept a few inches from the eyes.

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

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Post by shafyy »

rklaehn wrote: post #35

I think people should not underestimate this. The presentation is cringeworthy, but VR is very attractive for teenagers and preteens. I know this from personal experience with my kids. Same with the concept of NFTs. Using real money to pay for an in game asset like a fortnite skin is completely natural to them.

What's the connection between NFTs and using real money to pay for Fortnite skins?

Re: The metaverse is bullshit

#40

Post by m_mueller »

gfodor wrote: post #19
sho wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You join those dots like the arrival of "Avatarism" is something obvious and inevitable, but reading that blog post doesn't give me that idea at all. Instead, it makes me think the author is way, way too deep into a too-long list of very niche technical and sociological obsessions. A quote: What is Avatarism? Avatarism is a movement to recognize and protect the fundamental human right of freedom of form Yeah, except…

You didn’t read my article, or you did, and you aren’t understanding anything I wrote. You do have freedom of form, you are just limited in the forms you can change to. You exercise it every time you get a haircut. The question is about what changes if there are a variety of contexts where it is fair to assume most or all participants have photonic override. You are missing the point: this isn’t about goggles. Take a…

I recommend watching Black Mirror episose 'White Christmas'. You decide if this is future worth living in.
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