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The 37-Year-Olds Are Afraid of the 23-Year-Olds Who Work for Them

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#31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also appreciate the “f the hustle” mentality but it seems to come from a place of self entitlement, a lot of “and what about me?” less “what about us?”

There is no "us" when we have this level of income inequality and workers are treated like dirt. You have to be a fool now to think your company actually cares about you.

The "us" is the working class. I think the implication is they don't really care about their fellow workers, but for the power of union.

Re: The 37-Year-Olds Are Afraid of the 23-Year-Olds Who Work for Them

#32

I'm regularly working with people in "gen z" the past couple of years, that's never been my experience. I've also seen a bunch of people from any type of "generation" behave the same way that is described in the article.

This was my thought as well.

Who wants to follow corporate culture that doesn't make sense or prioritize work over well-being? Not being exploited doesn't feel age related to me.

Re: The 37-Year-Olds Are Afraid of the 23-Year-Olds Who Work for Them

#33

It was boomers vs millenials, because well boomers. But they are trying to switch the conversation to millenials vs zoomers. But the boomers ARE in charge of these lies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDJvj4i4Oi0

I have an opposite impression of the work divide between millennials and Gen X (assuming by "boomers" you meant Gen X; the word seems to have stretched to encompass everybody before the millennials.) To me as an Xer, the millennials seemed very hardworking, incredibly polished for their age, always put together, plagued with anxiety about how perfect they needed to be, and confused that the Gen-Xers above them in the org chart weren't always perfectly put together, didn't always have a perfect outfit, took the occasional Friday off so they could have a long weekend, etc.

So this article fits with my experience of the millennials being neurotically driven to be perfect and hit every corporate expectation, and finding themselves anxious around a generation that is more self-assured and blasé towards work. The big difference is that now the other, less driven generation is younger and more current than they are.

Re: The 37-Year-Olds Are Afraid of the 23-Year-Olds Who Work for Them

#34

I think the core issue is the younger generation sees that the American Dream is bullshit and they aren't putting up with it anymore. We're told from a young age that if you get educated and work hard you will be successful. You will be able to buy a house. So, Gen Z gets a degree and is released into the hellscape that is the current state of American society. 40+ hour work weeks that are incredibly stressful, with…

Real estate is definitely more of an issue for your generation. But the silver lining of Covid is the normalization of working remotely, so you can perhaps live some place cheap. Granted, if you were raised in California, say, that big house in Nebraska is going to be pretty miserable for you come winter time. As for work? Work is work. That's why people look forward to retirement. In an old Calvin and Hobbes Calvin…

People keep saying that, but the American dream involved kids, with kids you want to be in a city at some point.

Re: The 37-Year-Olds Are Afraid of the 23-Year-Olds Who Work for Them

#35

I think the core issue is the younger generation sees that the American Dream is bullshit and they aren't putting up with it anymore. We're told from a young age that if you get educated and work hard you will be successful. You will be able to buy a house. So, Gen Z gets a degree and is released into the hellscape that is the current state of American society. 40+ hour work weeks that are incredibly stressful, with…

I think rather they were sold a myth of how easy life would be. For all this “hardship” people are swarming to come here and when they get here, want to stay.

There is also a problem with inversion of cost. “Things” were expensive my parents day - TV, etc. Property was cheaper, so a boomer sees an iPhone and says a person is rich, but looks at his own 3k sq ft house and thinks “nothing special”.

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