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Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#32

Modi govt gets a lot of hate in India but we should also give credit where it is due, like for this. An indecisive leader or one heading a coalition govt probably couldn't have done it like this.

Absolutely not. 90% of these doses were provided by Serum Institute, a private company, that wholly managed the relationship with AstraZeneca since the early days of the pandemic, even when the government was asking citizens to perform rituals to ward off the pandemic.

The government not only played a largely passive role, but they did not even assist where they could. Before the second wave, Serum Institute was appealing for financial help to boost production capacity. But the government completely neglected that, choosing to prop up covaxin, their homegrown vaccine instead.

Even as the government was petitioning WHO to open up vaccine IPs, they refused to open up the IP for their own covaxin to domestic manufacturers, instead ensuring exclusive access to a company that is very "close" to the party.

What saved India in the end was a strong pharma/health industry enabling local manufacturing and ready distribution network for the vaccine. Serum Institute was already the world's largest vaccine manufacturer and was in an amazing position to take up the Oxford vaccine. They jumped at it with all hands and today account for 90% of all doses administered. It's a shame that the rest of the industry doesn't have a bigger share, they certainly have the capability. India is like top 3 in the world in pharma manufacturing. Many companies were ready and willing to switch to vaccine manufacturing but were tied up in bureaucracy with no support from the government.

Political will was the need of the hour, the government had none and it certainly shows in the outcome. Bad leaders always seem to enjoy something of a stockholm syndrome where they are forgiven and admired for everything once the dust settles. People forget how bad the second wave was, and how bad the decisions of the government leading into it. If not for Serum Institute and the strength of the pharma industry, India would have easily gone down the path of Brazil for the kind of shithousery the government pulled.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#33
post #26

Modi govt gets a lot of hate in India but we should also give credit where it is due, like for this. An indecisive leader or one heading a coalition govt probably couldn't have done it like this.

From BJP's IT cell? Sarcasm aside, look at the economy: >-20% dip in pandemic. Heck even Pakistan manages to keep its haad above the water. And Bangladesh has more per capita income. But hey, Bhakti is what bhakt do.

And randia users should stay where they belong, not here. Keep it clean.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#34

By way of comparison, China has administered at least 2,232,088,000 doses of COVID vaccines so far https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

1B is very impressive but more than twice that in the same time really puts the capacity, scale and reach of the Chinese State at a different level. Still I am curious why China is not opening up the borders to visitors?

Maybe they’re not yet done with covering up or don’t want investigative journalists

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#35

Modi govt gets a lot of hate in India but we should also give credit where it is due, like for this. An indecisive leader or one heading a coalition govt probably couldn't have done it like this.

The dear leader refused to fund free vaccines for people under 40. Instead, states were pitted against each other to procure doses It wasn't until the Supreme Court got involved that the government backtracked. So much for being decisive.

And everyone from the Central Board of Secondary Education to state owned enterprises were made to put up posters thanking Modiji for the vaccines. Because you, know he's funding them personally, not us taxpayers. Even the goddamn vaccination certificate has his smug face plastered on it. So, let's not pretend he's not taking credit for it.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#36
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A bit odd topic but the commas seem strange in the numbers there: >Total Vaccination Doses: 1,00,13,38,625 Is that an Indian thing?

Yes, Indian Numeral System is different. Thousand is Thousand. Hundred Thousand is 1 Lakh. 1 Million is 10 Lakhs. 10 Million is 1 Crore. 1 Billion is 100 Crores.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

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By way of comparison, China has administered at least 2,232,088,000 doses of COVID vaccines so far https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

And the EU administered about 580 million doses while exporting 1 billion: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-has-exported-over-1-...

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#38
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A bit odd topic but the commas seem strange in the numbers there: >Total Vaccination Doses: 1,00,13,38,625 Is that an Indian thing?

The words for the orders of magnitude don't group by thousand like in English (*thousand, million, billion, and so on) but by thousand (hazaar), hundred thousand (lakh), ten million (crore), and I don't know what next.

So the comma separation reflects the words, as in English.

> 38,625

38 hazaar ... Vs. 38 thousand ...

> 13,38,625 vs. 1,338,625

13 lakh ... Vs. 1.3 million ...

> 1,00,13,38,625 vs. 1,001,338,625

100 crore Vs. 1.0 billion

This would no doubt be an entry in a hypothetical 'falsehoods programmers believe about numbers'! I.e. use things like Intl.NumberFormat in the browser, rather than home-grown 'group 3 digits and insert a comma then join again'.

(* yes, I'm going to conveniently ignore 'hundred' and its occasional/domain use like 'twelve hundred'.)

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#39

Modi govt gets a lot of hate in India but we should also give credit where it is due, like for this. An indecisive leader or one heading a coalition govt probably couldn't have done it like this.

Credit where due? The man shows up only when he has credit. He literally inaugurated a stadium in his own name. He is the most silent PM I’ve ever seen, doesn’t ever take interviews. I would rather attribute health officials doing their job for this success.

Re: India Counting Down to 1B Doses

#40

By way of comparison, China has administered at least 2,232,088,000 doses of COVID vaccines so far https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

1B is very impressive but more than twice that in the same time really puts the capacity, scale and reach of the Chinese State at a different level. Still I am curious why China is not opening up the borders to visitors?

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