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Re: Back to EU

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Post by Proven »

nanna wrote: post #26

Honestly what we need in the UK is a Back to the EU campaign that formulates a long term strategy for returning. In two decades England's Baby Boomer generation will no longer hold the reigns of power in the country (please God) and those in charge will have come from a generation that overwhelmingly voted Remain.

You're effectively saying you and the rest of the people in your nation are too incompetent to run a country so you need the EU to help you with that.

Pathetic, indeed.

And the post is laughable:

> Data privacy is, rightly so, one of the key concerns of the modern age.

Is that a joke?

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/cybersecurity-eu-to-ban-ano...

Re: Back to EU

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Post by volta83 »

nanna wrote: post #26

Honestly what we need in the UK is a Back to the EU campaign that formulates a long term strategy for returning. In two decades England's Baby Boomer generation will no longer hold the reigns of power in the country (please God) and those in charge will have come from a generation that overwhelmingly voted Remain.

Step 0: start driving on the right side of the road

Step 1: adopt the euro

Step 2: improve education for all ages and groups about misinformation, propaganda, etc. to reduce the chances of a bus driving around london from making you change your minds again in 4 years

Step 3: apply to enter as an equal into the EU, instead of trying to cut some half assed deal for half the rights and half the benefits

Re: Back to EU

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Post by [deleted] »

WJW wrote: post #27
brianwawok wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really have trouble telling Dutch words from hand smash in keyboards. I love it.

My favorite is the word "angstschreeuw" (cry/shout of fear), which is the word with the most consecutive consonants in the Dutch dictionary.

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Re: Back to EU

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Post by BeniBoy »

A recent ruling (namely the Schrems II one) makes it very complicated to host and process data in countries that we used to consider as having "equivalent" privacy protection. The most prominent of course is the USA, but the UK could be on the line at some point.

For now it has an "adequacy decision"[1] allowing such transfer, but future changes could threaten that, and activist such as Max Schrems would happily (and rightfully) attack this decision if it happened.

Schrems II might be a blessing in disguise for the European hosting/Saas/Cloud industry, we'll see !

[1]: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/pt/ip_21_...

Re: Back to EU

#35

Post by archsurface »

bambax wrote: post #17
lbriner wrote: post #8

Surely you don't have to degrade your security to a lower UK standard, you can still meet GDPR and make it clear on your website, "Do you conform to GDPR?", "Yes we do. Although the UK have a lower standard of data protection, we still meet the stricter standard"

From TFA: > Whatever we say to our customers about how Cronofy approaches data privacy and controls, corresponding enforcement will not follow. (...) We can make our protestations about ISO certifications, data management controls, segmented data hosting. However, prospective customers won’t necessarily get that far because we’ll be discounted based on our location. I don’t blame them. Data protection is fraught and…

I work at a global identity company in the UK - we don't have such problems. I'm afraid this blog post is nothing but grandstanding.

Re: Back to EU

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Post by zz865 »

nanna wrote: post #26

Honestly what we need in the UK is a Back to the EU campaign that formulates a long term strategy for returning. In two decades England's Baby Boomer generation will no longer hold the reigns of power in the country (please God) and those in charge will have come from a generation that overwhelmingly voted Remain.

You make it sound as if the EU will want the UK back.

Re: Back to EU

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Post by sorokod »

WJW wrote: post #27
brianwawok wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really have trouble telling Dutch words from hand smash in keyboards. I love it.

My favorite is the word "angstschreeuw" (cry/shout of fear), which is the word with the most consecutive consonants in the Dutch dictionary.

Angst scream?

Re: Back to EU

#38

Post by Zenst »

"What the UK government is proposing is going to put us on the same footing as US companies when it comes to dealing with EU customers, ie under the auspice of a regime that can’t be trusted."

Not sure you want to alienate the US just to score some political points when by you own admission - the bulk of your business is with the US ( a country that has a larger patriotic base than the UK and more experience of how to exit a union ala 1776). Point being any US company can implement a more stringent data policy beyond the scope of legal remit within the country of operations, so that's a USP that isn't exclusive. More so given you charge in $ already and not £'s or ever have!

But then, that's why the blog is not upon the company domain (of which cronofy.uk is available still) - even they can see it is a bit too politically charged and slanted. So with that, prudent move and appreciate it is good to vent and some venting can cause issues, so a fine balance in that approach and kudos for the hindsight to see that.

As for new location - have a good look as some EU countries offer some nice incentive packages and I'm sure many would love to see those compared.

Re: Back to EU

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Post by nickd2001 »

nanna wrote: post #26

Honestly what we need in the UK is a Back to the EU campaign that formulates a long term strategy for returning. In two decades England's Baby Boomer generation will no longer hold the reigns of power in the country (please God) and those in charge will have come from a generation that overwhelmingly voted Remain.

Why would the EU ever want us back? Really? By the time England's population becomes strongly in favour of rejoining, our economy will have been fairly trashed, we won't be a significant player, the EU will have done just fine without us for ages, why would they ever let a former member that caused a bunch of trouble, back in? What's in it for them? Also I'm not convinced England's population ever will be in strong favour of rejoining, with the deluge of anti-EU propaganda we're exposed to, that everything that's going wrong in this country is someone else's fault. I'd love to be proved wrong of course....

Re: Back to EU

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Post by blibble »

nanna wrote: post #26

Honestly what we need in the UK is a Back to the EU campaign that formulates a long term strategy for returning. In two decades England's Baby Boomer generation will no longer hold the reigns of power in the country (please God) and those in charge will have come from a generation that overwhelmingly voted Remain.

in ten years the drama will have settled down and the new status quo will have bedded in and the "fight" for the EU will be a distant memory
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