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Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Re: Twitch Hack of 135 GB of Data Includes How Much Its Biggest Streamers Make

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Post by pengaru »

celticninja wrote: post #15
mywittyname wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

Imagine not trusting your family with knowing how much you earn.

Imagine being this ignorant about people.

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Post by bityard »

errantspark wrote: post #27
mywittyname wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

I can imagine a society that doesn't value privacy functioning much better than ours if the lack of privacy is somehow thoroughly universalized. Secrets allow for concentration of power, something we should avoid. That being said I'm well aware of how load bearing "somehow thoroughly universalized" is in my statement. Perhaps it's only possible in a culture that truly rejects secret keeping as deeply harmful from an…

There is no freedom without privacy, full stop.

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Post by whalesalad »

janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

The irony here is that the true American Dream is less oversight, less governance, less laws, less restraint, and more freedom/trust. Most Americans just want to live and let live.

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Post by FredPret »

janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

Scandinavia, while not exactly a nightmare, seems like the opposite of the American dream to me.

In Scandinavia, you have the radical lack of privacy you just mentioned as a feature (!!!) as well as eye-watering taxes.

Now, in the States, the government spies on you, but at least they don’t publish their findings.

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Post by andrepd »

celticninja wrote: post #15
mywittyname wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

Imagine not trusting your family with knowing how much you earn.

Imagine assuming everyone has good relations with his family... I have good relations with mine and I'd still not trust anyone outside my parents/sibling with that info.

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Post by ta1234567890 »

trixie_ wrote: post #13
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

A good portion of the United States is against any sort of identification system in general. It’s why voting is so complicated. Some kind open income system in unfathomable to the vast majority of Americans.

Which is pretty ridiculous given that everyone needs a social security number, and then if you ever want to rent or buy a place you need a credit score. Then if you want to travel abroad you need a passport. And if you use google, social media or a cell phone, or pretty much just anything online, you are going to get tracked. All of these systems and organizations have already identified you, or they’ll easily do it when needed.

Not having a universal-nation-wide identification system only makes it worse for everyone.

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Post by secondcoming »

celticninja wrote: post #15
mywittyname wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

Imagine not trusting your family with knowing how much you earn.

Different cultures. My family don't know how much I earn, and vice versa. Why do they require this information? It can be quite rude in some places to ask someone how much they earn.

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Post by agumonkey »

mywittyname wrote: post #7
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

I'd prefer to keep my finances private, thanks. No good can come from nosey-ass family members, scammers, sales people, etc knowing this kind of information. It doesn't fight against tax evasion or anything, because the wealthy of the world will have yet another incentive to mask their income / assets through any of the number of mechanisms currently available. If you want pay transparency to fight pay inequality, th…

I don't live in Norway but OP didn't seem to suffer from second order consequences of divulging income. Maybe culture can be a factor here too.

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Post by Ekaros »

FredPret wrote: post #34
janandonly wrote: post #2

I lament the fact that we need hacks like these to know who makes how much money. In countries like Norway, that kind of data is publicly available. It makes for less second-guessing and less suspiciousness. It always struck me as weird that the American Dream can best be lived in Scandinavia

Scandinavia, while not exactly a nightmare, seems like the opposite of the American dream to me. In Scandinavia, you have the radical lack of privacy you just mentioned as a feature (!!!) as well as eye-watering taxes. Now, in the States, the government spies on you, but at least they don’t publish their findings.

On other hand we have other sorts of privacy. Like secrecy of correspondence meaning that for example my employer can't look at my mail without extremely good reason. Even with my employer my emails are mine and only mine.
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