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Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by true_religion »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #29
jamil7 wrote: post #26

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This. I think I would actually give up on reddit without apollo, the official app and website are user-hostile. I wonder if they will tighten the API up and eventually kill third-party clients.

If Apollo is the interface, what is Reddit besides a JSON document store and object storage for media? Once Apollo is big enough (network effects, critical mass, whatevs), it could spin off of Reddit as the backend (Cloudflare R2 for objects, workers and KV for comments). You can even backfill from the numerous Reddit archives (Internet Archive, Pushshift, etc) out there. (Apollo user with an interest in a distribute…

When it was just text, Reddit was cheap enough to run that it was kind of questionable why they needed so much VC funding.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by joshstrange »

eli wrote: post #27
joshstrange wrote: post #21

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> Apollo is not the defacto reddit client. Reddit's own app is. Reddit's is the official client. > Defacto: in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not I think in this case the validity of the word "defacto" depends on your sample population. Apollo is very popular (and a fantastic reddit client, I wish there was an equivalent for HN) but I can't imagine it's marketshare is anywhere close to even 50%. Among tech e…

Reddit pushes the official client hard from the mobile website. I'm sure its marketshare is huge.

100% agree. Thanks to Safari extensions (and the afore mentioned AMP redirector) you can now jump right into Apollo from a Reddit link and it's the best experience.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by dkonofalski »

theshrike79 wrote: post #4
recursive wrote: post #2

Seems unlikely. How many people have installed AMP blockers specifically on ios15? How many people have installed AMP blockers on any other platform that's not being UA-sniffed?

Amplosion got a big boost by being made by the same guy who did Apollo (pretty much the de facto Reddit client on iOS). I don't get bothered by AMP pages that much, but I paid the few euros for Amplosion just to support Christian's work and give a middle finger to Google's attempts to take over the web.

I don't care too much about AMP links but I bought Amplosion just to show my support for Christian, the author of Apollo. That app alone makes Reddit bearable. The official Reddit app is terrible and actively harms the browsing experience and makes it harder to find actual useful content on Reddit as opposed to all the pushed spam content.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by spicybright »

dkonofalski wrote: post #33
theshrike79 wrote: post #4

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Amplosion got a big boost by being made by the same guy who did Apollo (pretty much the de facto Reddit client on iOS). I don't get bothered by AMP pages that much, but I paid the few euros for Amplosion just to support Christian's work and give a middle finger to Google's attempts to take over the web.

I don't care too much about AMP links but I bought Amplosion just to show my support for Christian, the author of Apollo. That app alone makes Reddit bearable. The official Reddit app is terrible and actively harms the browsing experience and makes it harder to find actual useful content on Reddit as opposed to all the pushed spam content.

For anyone on android, "Reddit is fun" is hands down the best I've used.

I seriously don't see how people put up with the main app + non old.reddit.com site. It's just miserable and ad filled.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by SllX »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #29
jamil7 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I think I would actually give up on reddit without apollo, the official app and website are user-hostile. I wonder if they will tighten the API up and eventually kill third-party clients.

If Apollo is the interface, what is Reddit besides a JSON document store and object storage for media? Once Apollo is big enough (network effects, critical mass, whatevs), it could spin off of Reddit as the backend (Cloudflare R2 for objects, workers and KV for comments). You can even backfill from the numerous Reddit archives (Internet Archive, Pushshift, etc) out there. (Apollo user with an interest in a distribute…

> If Apollo is the interface, what is Reddit besides a JSON document store and object storage for media?

A community, or if you prefer, a community of communities. That part is essential.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by toomuchtodo »

SllX wrote: post #36
toomuchtodo wrote: post #29

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If Apollo is the interface, what is Reddit besides a JSON document store and object storage for media? Once Apollo is big enough (network effects, critical mass, whatevs), it could spin off of Reddit as the backend (Cloudflare R2 for objects, workers and KV for comments). You can even backfill from the numerous Reddit archives (Internet Archive, Pushshift, etc) out there. (Apollo user with an interest in a distribute…

> If Apollo is the interface, what is Reddit besides a JSON document store and object storage for media? A community, or if you prefer, a community of communities. That part is essential.

Yeah, agree. I'm arguing for disintermediation of the community from the corporate entity attempting to squeeze as much value out of the community as possible (and in the process, being a hot potato from one company to the next). Communities deserve better (Stackoverflow and Wikipedia come to mind), and the technology primitives are stupid simple. Perhaps I've been reading too much Neal Stephenson and Cory Doctorow lately!

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by bee_rider »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #29
jamil7 wrote: post #26

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This. I think I would actually give up on reddit without apollo, the official app and website are user-hostile. I wonder if they will tighten the API up and eventually kill third-party clients.

If Apollo is the interface, what is Reddit besides a JSON document store and object storage for media? Once Apollo is big enough (network effects, critical mass, whatevs), it could spin off of Reddit as the backend (Cloudflare R2 for objects, workers and KV for comments). You can even backfill from the numerous Reddit archives (Internet Archive, Pushshift, etc) out there. (Apollo user with an interest in a distribute…

I wonder if Lemmy instances are similar enough that the app could just be pointed toward them.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by colejohnson66 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #25
hibern8 wrote: post #18

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Source for the malware claim?

It tracks you for advertising purposes. That's malicious in my book.

It doesn’t advertise to you in secret (how would that even work?). The ads are front and center. It’s user hostile, but not malware.

Re: Did iOS 15 kill Google AMP

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Post by SllX »

true_religion wrote: post #30
jamil7 wrote: post #26

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This. I think I would actually give up on reddit without apollo, the official app and website are user-hostile. I wonder if they will tighten the API up and eventually kill third-party clients.

They should just hire the guy. I wouldn’t mind Apollo with ads from Reddit official.

Well Twitter on iOS started life as Tweetie which was an absolutely fantastic client on both iPhones and Macintoshes. I wouldn’t call it that now, even if some of the original Tweetie code is in there. Apollo with ads doesn’t seem like it is in Reddit’s business plan and after some time I think Apollo would go the way Tweetie did.

Edit: Something from the dredges of my memory just came back up and reminded me of something. The official Reddit client did start life as a 3rd party client: Alien Blue. [1]

So the real risk is Apollo becoming the next Alien Blue. Personally I would rather it stay independent.

[1] https://appleinsider.com/articles/14/10/16/reddit-buys-unoff...

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