When people have a common shared experience they have similar responses, who would have thought!!!
When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
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Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#32As the list of ways to trigger and activate the chimp brain gets refined, how long before we end up with something like a Laser for society? The echo chambers on social media and reinforcement/amplification they produce seems to be very similar to the mechanism to generate coherent light. Does analogy break somehow? Instead of syncing waves or particles just button press and sync a bunch of humans brains. I guess arm…
> something like a Laser for society
What does that mean?
Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, still it’s not the rates that are synchronized but the rate rises and falls are.
"Their heart rates change in unison" seems like a perfectly fine interpretation of "their heart rates are synchronized" that matches the observations. It is in fact what I expected when I read the headline. Maybe the headline could have been even more explicit, but I don't think it's intentionally deceiving.
It's the same difference as if two cars were told to "synchronise speeds" (rates) and instead they synchronised accelerations (rates of change).
Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#34Fake headline. This is not the usual meaning of the word “synchronize”. As many other commenters here point out, this makes the story a non-story. Strictly speaking, the headline is true in that the heart rates “synchronize”, but not the heart beats , which I would think that most people would mis-read the headline as.
Yeah the title had me very curious about how that would work
Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#35I don’t know why, but whenever I check my heart rate with a stopwatch, my heart beats synchronize with the watch ticks almost immediately (my normal pulse is 60 bpm). You’d think the likelihood of that happening is fairly low, but it happens almost every time.
Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's effectively measuring emotional response to fictional events, which sounds like a plausible way to diagnose a huge range of mental disorders. But if the subject wants to be diagnosed, why not just ask them how something made them feel? And if they don't want to be diagnosed (like you would expect for some sociopaths, pedophiles etc.) this won't help. If a full polygraph can't be proven to work against unwilling…
> just ask them how something made them feel Fair point. I was trying to throw the study a bone instead of declare it completely useless
I think it'll be good for developing a Voight-Kampff prototype.
Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#37Fake headline. This is not the usual meaning of the word “synchronize”. As many other commenters here point out, this makes the story a non-story. Strictly speaking, the headline is true in that the heart rates “synchronize”, but not the heart beats , which I would think that most people would mis-read the headline as.
I would not be surprised if under certain very specific conditions heart beats couldn't be made to synchronise.
For example doing a dance to music where muscles in the chest might 'nudge' heartbeat phases of otherwise very similar individuals into synchronisation.
It is after all pretty hard to make an oscillator which isn't affected by any environmental effects, and there is no reason to believe nature has managed it, especially when there is no real biological need to.
Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#38A silly study? But think of the use cases! The Wristband monitors everyone's heat rate and knows the correct response to each media input. "It seems you have stopped paying attention to your targeted advertising. Shall I replay your ads now?"
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Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#39The headline is a lie, of course.
The idea is interesting.
If the second derivative of heart beats is linked strongly to media and comprehension then your Fitbit like device can help with learning.
As a startup your data is free. You could see the pattern of comprehension quickly on any media from user data, get the base line and use that to help others.
In reality I'd bet the data is so weak you would not be able to use it for much. They found it statistically better than random. That's not enough to make calls off.
Re: When listeners pay attention to stories, their heart rates rise and fall in sync
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Their heart rates change in unison" seems like a perfectly fine interpretation of "their heart rates are synchronized" that matches the observations. It is in fact what I expected when I read the headline. Maybe the headline could have been even more explicit, but I don't think it's intentionally deceiving.
I find your two quoted lines as vastly different. The first is accurate and the second is not. Synchronized means to happen at the same time. For a rate to be synchronized, I expect the same rate value at the same time (each person at say 65bpm). If the rate change is in sync, I expect the same rate of change value for each person (everyone is slowing their heart rate at 2bpm per minute). In unison means at the same…
I assume the ‘mysterious communication’ would be the cadence of the reader, which could have been a remarkable feat. Can we influence heart beats externally (indirectly), say with sound, and nudge it into holding a rhythm? The story can increase/relax it, so perhaps individualized broadcasts could theoretically be used to synchronize the beats precisely (in the second sense)?