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Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by pacerwpg »

Grieving wrote: post #30
pacerwpg wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look further down the thread, there were official election monitors in the room.

edit: the video below is not what I thought it was. The second part of my comment stands. There's also video of the poll workers demanding that all Republican challengers leave. https://twitter.com/_New_Revolution/status/13240914159246745... There were hundreds of videos of poll workers behaving in ways that ranged from suspicious to obviously illegal. Many have since been removed from social media. I don't like Trum…

He says 'they're throwing all the republican challengers out of this room' and a woman replies 'no they're not'. The man in the video isn't demanding anything like what the tweet describes.

I have to think you're engaging in this in bad faith because you're using misleading tweets to guide the discussion.

Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by hourislate »

soared wrote: post #11

I had a discussion with some friends about how impressive it is that Putin can do so many outrageous things and the world doesn’t stop him. Clear election fraud, assassinating foreigners, invading Crimea, etc. there are very few other countries that get free passes like Putin does.

It's all about money. Countries like Germany and France depend heavily on Russia and are willing to basically ignore everything. They roll out their strongly worded responses and the next day build pipelines or sell equipment that should be on a sanctions list.

NATO is a joke and everyone knows it. Russia will do what it wants and their opinion is that Euro's can go fuck themselves. There isn't one country or a group of countries in Western Europe that could even muster a military response to any Russian actions. I've spoken with many and that is basically their attitude. They like Putin, he doesn't take shit from the West. Really, the only country in the world that is currently at war with them barely gets a mention anymore. Do people even know what country it is? Probably not.

It's a new world, Western Europe and America is a joke, everyone knows they don't have the will to stand up to Russia or China (at least this administration), they're more concerned about diversity and wokism....

Junk away...

Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by Grieving »

pacerwpg wrote: post #31
Grieving wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

edit: the video below is not what I thought it was. The second part of my comment stands. There's also video of the poll workers demanding that all Republican challengers leave. https://twitter.com/_New_Revolution/status/13240914159246745... There were hundreds of videos of poll workers behaving in ways that ranged from suspicious to obviously illegal. Many have since been removed from social media. I don't like Trum…

He says 'they're throwing all the republican challengers out of this room' and a woman replies 'no they're not'. The man in the video isn't demanding anything like what the tweet describes. I have to think you're engaging in this in bad faith because you're using misleading tweets to guide the discussion.

I see what you mean. I misheard the beginning of the man's statement and understood that he was making the demand. I'm not sure why you'd assume bad faith, I just linked another video which was posted in the replies of the previous one.

Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by Volundr »

wryroybatty wrote: post #17
sleepysysadmin wrote: post #4

Election in Canada today unrelated to OP.

Irresponsible, even if in jest.

I think this was actually meant to be informative rather than a joke. A Canadian reading this headline might naturally assume this was in relation to the election currently on-going there, rather than Russia, locality bias being what it is.

Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by sleepysysadmin »

Volundr wrote: post #34
wryroybatty wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irresponsible, even if in jest.

I think this was actually meant to be informative rather than a joke. A Canadian reading this headline might naturally assume this was in relation to the election currently on-going there, rather than Russia, locality bias being what it is.

Ya I just got home from voting and saw this. clicked it thinking it was Canadian. I wasn't joking, just trying to be informative.

Then again seeing how heavily im downvoted. Guess I touched on a rough subject.

Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by Volundr »

sleepysysadmin wrote: post #35
Volundr wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this was actually meant to be informative rather than a joke. A Canadian reading this headline might naturally assume this was in relation to the election currently on-going there, rather than Russia, locality bias being what it is.

Ya I just got home from voting and saw this. clicked it thinking it was Canadian. I wasn't joking, just trying to be informative. Then again seeing how heavily im downvoted. Guess I touched on a rough subject.

I think the US elections have left a pretty serious sore spot that's going to be a long time in healing. I suspect your comment was being read as sarcastically implying that the same thing was happening in Canada as well. Especially since (and correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't really kept up on Canadian politics) I've gotten the impression that the USA drama has crept north, or at least Canada is going through a somewhat similar phase.

Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by caeril »

pacerwpg wrote: post #29
bmeski wrote: post #21

There’s absolutely no way that this could have happened in Philly and Atlanta. Absolutely no way. The pipes burst. They had to stop counting.

I mean it's possible that it could have happened, but I feel like if you're going to make claims like this, there's a pretty high threshold of evidence required.

That's kind of the point, though.

There's approximately as much evidence for Russian election fraud as there was for the 2020 US election: that is to say, some numerical anomalies, and poll workers acting strangely, with a few unlikely coincidences, but nothing that reaches the bar of hard evidence.

But the same people dismissing these claims in the US last year on the basis of "no evidence" are screaming positive affirmations about the same thing in Russia.

People are making affirmative claims of fraud on the basis of political priors in both cases, not actual evidence on hand.

Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by kingofpandora »

soared wrote: post #11

I had a discussion with some friends about how impressive it is that Putin can do so many outrageous things and the world doesn’t stop him. Clear election fraud, assassinating foreigners, invading Crimea, etc. there are very few other countries that get free passes like Putin does.

Hasn't the US done all those things in recent, say 30 years, memory?

Edit: election fraud in other countries

Re: Watch an election being stolen in realtime

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Post by HKH2 »

willvarfar wrote: post #19

From the high score but low placement on the HN page, I’m guessing this is being heavily flagged.

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.

> If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

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