Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video] • Hacker News Board

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by uuddlrlr » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:11 PM UTC

jstx1 wrote: post #20

I was wondering who they were and why they were self-saboting. Then I saw that it's a channel with 20 subscribers on youtube with view numbers in the single digits for some videos. So somebody went from not being watched on youtube, to not being watched on peertube. How did this even make it to the front page?

Peertube is interesting tech, and YouTube's de facto monopoly on video hosting is less than ideal. Especially considering that it's owned by the world's largest attention harvesting operation.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by test542 » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:13 PM UTC

If you want PeerTube to become popular, make it easier for people to upload videos. At the moment it's too confusing and complicated; no content creator cares what "instance" means and they never will. No one who creates an account and finds that "uploads are not allowed on this instance" or encounters some similar problem is going to waste any more time trying to use it. If you leave it the way it is now, it's always just gonna be by nerds for nerds. And more people are going to be enslaved by Big Brother who controls YouTube. So please make it accessible to normal people.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by mdoms » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:19 PM UTC

jstx1 wrote: post #20

I was wondering who they were and why they were self-saboting. Then I saw that it's a channel with 20 subscribers on youtube with view numbers in the single digits for some videos. So somebody went from not being watched on youtube, to not being watched on peertube. How did this even make it to the front page?

This forum will launch anything decentralized or federated onto the front page.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by 3gg » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:23 PM UTC

jstx1 wrote: post #20

I was wondering who they were and why they were self-saboting. Then I saw that it's a channel with 20 subscribers on youtube with view numbers in the single digits for some videos. So somebody went from not being watched on youtube, to not being watched on peertube. How did this even make it to the front page?

The points made in the video are valid regardless of how many viewers their channel has.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by 3gg » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:24 PM UTC

chairhairair wrote: post #12

The channel in this post has 20 YouTube subscribers and no more than a couple thousand total YouTube views. The trending page on PeerTube shows a list of videos with at most a few dozen views. Is PeerTube supremely unpopular (seems to have been launched several years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube), or am I missing something? Does it really have an order of magnitude more Github stars ( https://github.com/Chocob…

What exactly is your point? That it's inferior technology because it's unpopular?

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by dartharva » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:25 PM UTC

Odysee is functionally a much better Youtube alternative than Peertube. Too bad it mostly acts like the Youtube equivalent of Parler now.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by hortense » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:25 PM UTC

lillecarl wrote: post #27

tinyhouse wrote: post #23

"exploited by ads". Well, YouTube needs to make money somehow. If you don't want ads you can pay a monthly fee like Netflix.

They're probably still tracking me even though I pay right?

You can turn your history off if you want, but then you'll get suggestions of videos you've already watched.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by 3gg » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:26 PM UTC

petermcneeley wrote: post #4

Why is the upload bytes always zero for me? (I would guess they dont do NAT holepunch)

I was wondering the same thing. Looks like the videos are shared using WebRTC, which I have disabled in my browser.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by varispeed » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:31 PM UTC

When using such federated platforms, do you leak your IP address to other people viewing the content?

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by 3gg » Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 7:39 PM UTC

tinyhouse wrote: post #23

"exploited by ads". Well, YouTube needs to make money somehow. If you don't want ads you can pay a monthly fee like Netflix.

Youtube forcing a subscription on everybody would be self-sabotage. Their existence and ability to make profits rests entirely on ads. And while the ads could be more ethical, they choose instead to track people in every possible way, exploiting their identity and fingerprint on the platform -- and outside the platform -- for maximum profit. So the ads are not a choice, but the soul of the product. Peertube, instead, does not exist to make profits.

So yes, exploited by ads.