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Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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Linux Desktop means Linux being a good Windows alternative on your computer.

This already happened for most developers who are the last real users of PCs. WSL is microsoft giving up. Other users dont really need PCs any more, you just use a phone or a web browser.

I don't know if WSL is Microsoft giving up or Canonical. It just gives people an excuse or a reason to use Windows.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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This "year of the Linux Desktop" joke is getting a bit tiresome. What is missing exactly? Sure the desktop is a bit ugly. But pretty much everything works out of the box. If MS released a native Office for Linux I could get rid of my Mac.

Have you tried running Office over Wine? Have you tried LibreOffice? Admittedly, I don't have to share complicated MS Office documents with other people, but I do like using LO. [edit] Actually, there are some things about LO I'm not sure about: For instance, I don't know how to use their formula editor, and when I tried using it, I got confused and found another way of inserting mathematical symbols into my document…

> I don't have to share complicated MS Office documents with other people, but I do like using LO.

If you do share documents, Excel files especially, you'll quickly find that people using MS Office wouldn't like you using LibreOffice.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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If ChromeOS is the Linux Desktop of 2021, it surely represents the antithesis of open source ideals?

ChromeOS is a cloud operating system (OS) that tracks and records all your activity the moment you sign in. Naturally, a Google account is required to use the full functionality of the OS. It is used by millions of schoolkids with all the privacy implications that entails. Somehow, Google's promise to never build profiles of their school users is enough to placate developers. In fact, developers are more likely to defend Google rather than question or scrutinise the privacy implications of using a cloud OS.

I presume most developers are happy to sign-in in an OS to unlock OS functionality and have their activity tracked? After all, we've happy to push this model on kids.

It's ironic that so much cloud software, whether an OS or a SaaS product, is built on open source software. And yet cloud software gives users less control and more tracking than the desktop model. Cloud software has been open source's greatest success - just not in the way open source advocates expected it to be.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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I tried to install Ubuntu 20.04 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Fonts were funny and the mouse never got the monitors right. Horrible things were happening when I was recovering from sleep mode. I installed Windows 10 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Everything worked out of the box. So at least for me 2021 is the year of Windows Desktop and certainly not Linux Desktop. Disclaimer: I try 1-2 times a year t…

My wife claims that I use Linux precisely for this. To get the kicks from troubleshooting pesky little issues, endless tweaking and discovery of obscure configurations.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This same quality may be part of why it has never gained significant traction though, the proliferation of components and resulting fragmentation have made it a difficult target for application developers. Oh, sure, FOSS applications work fine... because they're open source and rely on unpaid third parties to integrate them into whatever absurdly interdependent ecosystem (a.k.a "distro") you happen to be using. Well,…

I think that's why we have flatpack now.

Canonical is trying really hard to promote its snap format as an alternative. Firefox will be shipped as a snap in Ubuntu 21.10.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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post #32
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried running Office over Wine? Have you tried LibreOffice? Admittedly, I don't have to share complicated MS Office documents with other people, but I do like using LO. [edit] Actually, there are some things about LO I'm not sure about: For instance, I don't know how to use their formula editor, and when I tried using it, I got confused and found another way of inserting mathematical symbols into my document…

> I don't have to share complicated MS Office documents with other people, but I do like using LO. If you do share documents, Excel files especially, you'll quickly find that people using MS Office wouldn't like you using LibreOffice.

I used it with some financial records from my bank, which were in Excel format. It worked fine for me. But these might not count as complicated Excel documents. Also, I never shared any of my changes with other people.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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I think 2022 has the potential to be the Year of the Linux Desktop due to the Steam Deck. Valve has promised that Proton will allow almost all Windows games to run on it. Guaranteed they'll also be working hard on SteamOS polish. If Windows 11 turns out to be messy, then gamers could consider Linux more attractive now.

Millions of people are using Linux via Android and Chrome OS, but I'm not sure the success of either of those has benefited the general Linux ecosystem in a meaningful way. I think the Steam Deck will be a similar situation. It's cool that it's Linux-based, but I suspect most users will just think of it as a Valve product and not really care about the internals.

Re: Is 2021 the Year of the Linux Desktop?

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I tried to install Ubuntu 20.04 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Fonts were funny and the mouse never got the monitors right. Horrible things were happening when I was recovering from sleep mode. I installed Windows 10 on my Thinkpad P51 with two monitors. Everything worked out of the box. So at least for me 2021 is the year of Windows Desktop and certainly not Linux Desktop. Disclaimer: I try 1-2 times a year t…

Dual monitor setup is a huge problem with linux distros. I haven't found yet any DE that works out of the box. I'm really looking forward to KDE with official stable wayland support, until then 2021 is not the year of linux desktop
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