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Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by invokestatic »

jordemort wrote: post #4

I have a .haus domain for personal use. I can send and receive email just fine, but I do run into a lot of apps that do some sort of misguided "validation" on the email address and reject .haus as an invalid domain. One retailer lets me use the .haus email address as a login, but once I log in and try to make a payment it requires me to enter a different "valid" email address to send the receipt to. It's very irritat…

I have a .co domain that gets rejected occasionally as well. Highly regret that domain choice since people often mistake it for .com.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by ChrisArchitect »

tough story for a company and I know there's a ton of shady TLDs out there now but this will change rapidly I think - it used to be a .com world but as we all know .io etc has changed rapidly in last 5 years. Lately due to lack of .coms I get the feeling a lot of the other TLDs like .shop, .whatever are being used more and more for random sites for startups, projects etc, so I'm sure as they become more accepted in tech systems like SMS (weird about the filtering) and servers etc.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by lopis »

sneak wrote: post #3

> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. Why are people afraid to use the real term for this? It's called censorship. Your provider is silently censoring your text messages. In peacetime. You can't expect it to improve when that's no longer the case.

Spam protection is very hard, so xyz was sacrificed because most of it was spam. Filtering out viagra pills junk mail from your inbox is also censorship.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by maxwell »

krono wrote: post #26
humanistbot wrote: post #2

> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

Blocking of messages/emails and blanket email server/domain/extension blacklisting is the same as a postal service not delivering mail to or from a particular entity/street/town. Doing so silently and without a valid and case-specific reason should not be legally allowed. Edit: Added "street/town" to analogy, and "case-specific" before reason

The FCC classified SMS/MMS as unregulated, filterable "information services" rather than regulated "telecommunications services".

https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/sms-mms-deemed-infor...

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by marcosdumay »

burnished wrote: post #19
wongarsu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's spam protection. Which I guess is a form of censorship, especially in a medium like SMS that has no built-in way to mark something as spam and still deliver it.

I'd argue its not censorship. If I don't pick up your call because I don't recognize the number, or my phone is on silent, is that censorship? Lacking an agenda or a message I'd hesitate to call anything censorship. Like, without a censor actually redacting things or controlling the conversation, can it really be called censorship?

It's not censorship if one of the peers on the conversation do it. It's certainly censorship if a monopolistic or oligopolistic platform does it. And there's a lot of middle ground where things get hard,

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by hcurtiss »

tombert wrote: post #27

I was pretty excited when ICANN opened up a bunch of new domain extensions, but it does sometimes feel like "all these extensions are great if you don't plan on using them". It was pretty cool that I managed to buy a bunch of domains like . , but to be honest I really don't see myself using my .blackfriday domain for anything. For that matter, I think that (somewhat ironically) `my-last-name.email` would not be taken…

I had .email for a while. Many shopping sites wouldn't actually let you use the address, presumably given some filter assuming that "email" was a fake address. Because my name ends with "ss", I switched over to .es, which conveniently is a country TLD (Spain). That's worked very well, though occasionally I'll get spam in Spanish, which cracks me up.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

kop316 wrote: post #24
humanistbot wrote: post #2

> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

...whoa, yeah same here. tried "test spot.xyz" then "test spot.com" T-mobile T-Mobile. "test spot.xyz" did not send. Even weirder, I got a confirmmation that it was delivered. It looks like T-Mobile looks for ".xyz" within the SMS and will silent drop the SMS (though it will claim it is delivered). ".xxyz" works, "..xyz" or ".xyzz" does not. "xyz" works, so does ".xy".

> though it will claim it is delivered

I thought SMS didn’t have delivery receipts?

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by [deleted] »

blendergeek wrote: post #17
humanistbot wrote: post #2

> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

I have this same problem with "obscure" .net domains. My text messages are silently dropped. The only work around I found is to not include http:// , just use the bare domain. Personally, I find this behavior of my SMS provider reprehensible.

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Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

taftster wrote: post #29
Dig1t wrote: post #8

> initial email open rates rose from 70% to 86% I know this is common knowledge, but it still really creeps me out that companies can track this.

Disable auto-image loading, and it will cut down the ability for companies to do this. Unfortunately, this often times leads to direct phone calls along the lines of, "Hey taftster, did you get my email? It shows that you haven't opened it yet." This side-effect is also very annoying.

Who gives companies their personal phone number?

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by maxwell »

Spivak wrote: post #28
Thaxll wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wonder why there is any filtering on sms ...

Because spam really is that rampant. There aren't that many communication systems with a small search domain of user ids where anyone can send and receive messages from anyone by default.

Why not impose costs instead of filtering?
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