I recently installed LineageOS on my phone, replacing the stock MIUI. I would probably return this phone if I had no other option than to use MIUI. I much prefer the "pure" Android experience. For many essential and security critical apps to work, like bank apps or the McDonald's app you need to hide the fact you're using a modified system, because of SafetyNet. This hiding/bypass works for now, because it tricks Goo…
>or the McDonald's app Excuse me? McDonald's app considers itself security critical now?
S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
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Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#32I recently installed LineageOS on my phone, replacing the stock MIUI. I would probably return this phone if I had no other option than to use MIUI. I much prefer the "pure" Android experience. For many essential and security critical apps to work, like bank apps or the McDonald's app you need to hide the fact you're using a modified system, because of SafetyNet. This hiding/bypass works for now, because it tricks Goo…
>or the McDonald's app Excuse me? McDonald's app considers itself security critical now?
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#33I hate when a law or legal decision is aimed 45 degrees off like this. Letting manufacturers bundle their fucked-up version of Android is a bad thing. What we need is mandatory unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want on their devices.
There will still need to be the option for a locked boot loader though. If I’m Snowden, knowing my boot loader could be unlocked and a key logger side loaded isn’t reassuring.
If I'm Snowden, I would be far more concerned about that.
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want Here you go: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 .
We shouldn't have to sacrifice performance, quality, and reasonable price points in order to have the basic things we've had in the desktop world for decades.
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#35I hate when a law or legal decision is aimed 45 degrees off like this. Letting manufacturers bundle their fucked-up version of Android is a bad thing. What we need is mandatory unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want on their devices.
What we need is control on the bootloader, with the ability to unlock, load our own keys, and relock. We also need to clean-up the mess with all those "partitions" (some of them with critical informations e.g. calibration, IMEI, etc) so that only one partition would have all those static information (reasonably protected against overwrite, e.g. colocated with bootloader and device-tree). We should be able to re-parti…
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#36I hate when a law or legal decision is aimed 45 degrees off like this. Letting manufacturers bundle their fucked-up version of Android is a bad thing. What we need is mandatory unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want on their devices.
What we need is control on the bootloader, with the ability to unlock, load our own keys, and relock. We also need to clean-up the mess with all those "partitions" (some of them with critical informations e.g. calibration, IMEI, etc) so that only one partition would have all those static information (reasonably protected against overwrite, e.g. colocated with bootloader and device-tree). We should be able to re-parti…
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#37I hate when a law or legal decision is aimed 45 degrees off like this. Letting manufacturers bundle their fucked-up version of Android is a bad thing. What we need is mandatory unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want on their devices.
> unlockable bootloaders so the users can load whatever they want Here you go: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 .
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not aware of any manufacturer who allows bootloader unlocking without also displaying a warning screen every time the phone boots up. Example: https://www.thecustomdroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Ho...
My current phone (Xiaomi POCO F2 Pro) only displays a faint lock/unlock icon above the logo while booting. Easy to miss. But that's not really important, because unlocking the bootloader factory resets the device on every Android phone that I know of. AFAIK it's not possible to unlock a bootloader without the owner's knowledge.
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
>or the McDonald's app Excuse me? McDonald's app considers itself security critical now?
I mean, you put your credit card into it, so yeah?
Re: S.Korea fines Google $177M for blocking Android customisation
#40I recently installed LineageOS on my phone, replacing the stock MIUI. I would probably return this phone if I had no other option than to use MIUI. I much prefer the "pure" Android experience. For many essential and security critical apps to work, like bank apps or the McDonald's app you need to hide the fact you're using a modified system, because of SafetyNet. This hiding/bypass works for now, because it tricks Goo…
Sure, but your LineageOS only works because Google is forcing manufacturers to pass CTS tests (which ensure that all Android devices are actually compatible with your apps). If that disappears, you'll end up with apps that only work on Samsung Androids and your LineageOS will stop being compatible. We're essentially going back to horrorshow of SymbianOS, where different Symbian devices weren't compatible between them…