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Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by indymike »

dont__panic wrote: post #4
trts wrote: post #2

It makes me sad that FF browser share has continued to decline steadily. The past couple years of releases have been some its the best in terms of my own UX, since perhaps the Phoenix era. It's pretty fast these days, the UI is good, has a lot of great extensions and privacy features. I use Brave at work to have a better chrome-based experience with gsuite. It's also a fast, excellent browser with good privacy featur…

I still ask myself: has FF browser share actually dropped that much, or has FF's privacy focus caused browser share estimates to mostly miss FF users in their counts? Most of these stats come from the exact kind of skeevy companies that I (and many other FireFox users) are using FireFox to avoid.

Firefox has less users than desktop Safari. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. When you factor in mobile it gets worse because Chrome (the Android default) and Safari (the only real choice on iOS) are so dominant.

Also, the market share numbers reported by client side trackers like StatsCounter are very close to log file collection and analysis by companies like Kinsta.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by _AzMoo »

indymike wrote: post #26

Are the three headline features important to you? They are: - Picture in Picture - Expanded Dark Mode - DNS over HTTPs I really like Firefox, but features like this are not going to cause people to switch browsers. I'm pretty sure most end users would never even notice them. DNS over HTTPs is actually a bit of a pain if you want to host your own DNS.

I use Picture in Picture all the time, it's one of the main things that keeps me on Firefox. Such a great feature.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by thedailymail »

The fact alone that FF is the best-optimized browser for uBlock Origin makes it an easy choice for me.

It's interesting to me that many of my favorite/most used web technologies in the past decade or so have come from individual, non-profit developers just trying to make something useful, free and flying in the face of a lot of legal and industry norms (e.g., gorhill, elbakyan). In my experience, these tend to work best on FF + VPN, or on Tor (built from FF).

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by betwixthewires »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #30
betwixthewires wrote: post #3

When the "free web" is no longer just lip service from Mozilla I'll consider it.

What kind of changes would be compelling to you?

In this thread I have replied with a link to another thread that contains a comment of mine as well as an article and several other comments on this topic.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

_AzMoo wrote: post #32
indymike wrote: post #26

Are the three headline features important to you? They are: - Picture in Picture - Expanded Dark Mode - DNS over HTTPs I really like Firefox, but features like this are not going to cause people to switch browsers. I'm pretty sure most end users would never even notice them. DNS over HTTPs is actually a bit of a pain if you want to host your own DNS.

I use Picture in Picture all the time, it's one of the main things that keeps me on Firefox. Such a great feature.

It is great, but doesn’t iOS already have this with Safari?

Edit: ah, nevermind, I thought this was specifically a Firefox IOS release today. Taking the link directly talked about iOS for me.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by betwixthewires »

0xdeadb00f wrote: post #21
0des wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>before getting voted off the island? Come on now

This happens often. A shitty opinion is usually down voted but at some point, if nobody's replied yet, then nobody can point out in words how shitty that opinion is, or prompt them for some further explanation.

Is it a shitty opinion? How or why?

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Post by 0des »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #34
imwillofficial wrote: post #25

This is the same Firefox that said “deplatforming is not enough” Sorry Firefox, you’re not an arbiter of truth in my book.

You are complaining about Mozilla, not the open source product they make. Edit: I’m HN-wrong, best type

I wish this distinction were more common, in general. We all have opinions that are bound to disagree with some people. We can also still make cool things that are a net-benefit.
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