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Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#31

ICE motorbikes seem like the most obvious type of vehicle to immediately mandate 100% EV, with an aggressive target like 12 months (to clear out existing inventory). The segment and vehicles themselves are small enough that this changeover can be made fairly easily, with immense benefits for noise pollution in cities.

I suspect that the noise is a big appeal to motorcycle owners.

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#33

Their explanation seems legit but I do wonder how Apple would handle warranty claims to damages done to the camera system from strong vibrations. Like, does the iPhone internally log strong vibrations sensed through the gyro/accelerometer to invalidate warranty claims? I'm asking since most phones also have moisture stickers inside to invalidate warranty claims to to water damage.

A friend of mine has had his phone replaced twice due to this before figuring out the cause, however now that there’s a formal publication in it I’d bet that changes.

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#34

It isn't just iPhone, and it can happen on any motorcycle regardless of the engine size or power. The OIS in my Pixel 4a is destroyed from using a mount for less than an hour.

Just to be clear, this isn't about using the camera while mounted on the bike, but having the phone mounted ever actually damages the camera for any use, mounted or otherwise?

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#35
post #8

I live about 5 miles (on the same road) as the local Harley Davidson dealership and would love it if HD riders left the stock pipes on their bikes. While the engines do vibrate, don't dismiss the additional concussive force of an unmuffled exhaust.

For the bikes being loud enough that everyone knows you’re coming is life and death issue on the road surrounded by huge cars and trucks

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#36

Their explanation seems legit but I do wonder how Apple would handle warranty claims to damages done to the camera system from strong vibrations. Like, does the iPhone internally log strong vibrations sensed through the gyro/accelerometer to invalidate warranty claims? I'm asking since most phones also have moisture stickers inside to invalidate warranty claims to to water damage.

> does the iPhone internally log strong vibrations sensed through the gyro/accelerometer

I would lean heavily towards "yes".

The why, I guess we'll never know the real answer, but I remember rumours, years ago, of manufacturers denying warranty claims based on "dropped" devices thanks to the gyro data.

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#37

Their explanation seems legit but I do wonder how Apple would handle warranty claims to damages done to the camera system from strong vibrations. Like, does the iPhone internally log strong vibrations sensed through the gyro/accelerometer to invalidate warranty claims? I'm asking since most phones also have moisture stickers inside to invalidate warranty claims to to water damage.

This gets closer to slippery-slope argument, because in that case everything happens on black box software and is easier to manipulate or error prone. Apple can just say that logs say your gyro tells this and this. At which point you can’t trust for the warranty of your phone? Moisture stickers can be validated by third party in theory at least.

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#38

ICE motorbikes seem like the most obvious type of vehicle to immediately mandate 100% EV, with an aggressive target like 12 months (to clear out existing inventory). The segment and vehicles themselves are small enough that this changeover can be made fairly easily, with immense benefits for noise pollution in cities.

That is one way to kill an entire industry.

Electric motorcycles have been here for years, nobody is adopting them because nobody wants them. They are closer to electric bicycles than they are motorbikes.

When I jump on my motorcycle, it is about the experience - not anything practical. The startup ritual, the heat of the engine on a cool day, the symphony of sound and vibrations, the weight of what is under you, the absolute bliss you feel shifting through the curves of the road, the adrenaline of masterfully coordinating lean, angle of attack, rev matching, and counter steer.

There is something incredibly dull about an electric motorcycle comparatively. They are practical, and I will admit the linear acceleration is fun, but with so much sacrificed I could never see myself owning one as a recreational vehicle.

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#39
post #8

I live about 5 miles (on the same road) as the local Harley Davidson dealership and would love it if HD riders left the stock pipes on their bikes. While the engines do vibrate, don't dismiss the additional concussive force of an unmuffled exhaust.

For the bikes being loud enough that everyone knows you’re coming is life and death issue on the road surrounded by huge cars and trucks

That’s the sales pitch, but I haven’t seen any evidence. Almost all the sound is projected behind you, where people can already see you (and where high-vis clothing would be more effective than sound anyway, but you don’t see many bikers wearing that).

Anecdotally, the people I’ve known with loud exhaust systems are not what you’d call “safety conscious”.

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#40

Their explanation seems legit but I do wonder how Apple would handle warranty claims to damages done to the camera system from strong vibrations. Like, does the iPhone internally log strong vibrations sensed through the gyro/accelerometer to invalidate warranty claims? I'm asking since most phones also have moisture stickers inside to invalidate warranty claims to to water damage.

There is likely characteristic physical damage from the vibration.
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