Did AS8003 just disappear? • Hacker News Board

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by Bluecobra » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 2:27 AM UTC

bogomipz wrote: post #12

0x0000000 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

11.0.0.0/8

Was it ever common to use 11/8 internally? Did people just roll dice because it wasn't being announced? The reference in the post is the first I've heard of people possibly using it.

I once worked at a place that used 100.0.0.0/8. At the time that range was not in use on the Internet. Not sure if that was intentional or a fat finger. That place was ran by idiots though, so it was probably the latter.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by karmanyaahm » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 2:52 AM UTC

eppp wrote: post #23

zhte415 wrote: post #19

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Why is IPv6 not a popular idea here?

I work at an ISP and not a single customer has ever even mentioned IPv6. There zero demand on the residential side.

Probably a different ISP, but, see this thread (and many others) https://twitter.com/karmanyaahm/status/1426552449314299919 with requests from 2011-2021

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by zachberger » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 3:03 AM UTC

imglorp wrote: post #14

bogomipz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was it ever common to use 11/8 internally? Did people just roll dice because it wasn't being announced? The reference in the post is the first I've heard of people possibly using it.

I'm baffled too. This is why there is an RFC 1918 so everyone knows what's public and private.

Some corporations have exhausted the RFC1918 address space. After exhausting that they tend to fall back to the space allocated to CGNAT. And once that is finally exhausted they tend to fall back to privately used public IP addresses (PUPI addresses). We allow all of this on GCP in our VPCs: https://cloud.google.com/vpc/docs/vpc#valid-ranges

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by tbyehl » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 3:16 AM UTC

bogomipz wrote: post #12

0x0000000 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

11.0.0.0/8

Was it ever common to use 11/8 internally? Did people just roll dice because it wasn't being announced? The reference in the post is the first I've heard of people possibly using it.

Squatting on DoD / MoD ranges is rampant. Rogers and T-Mobile have done it.

My employer squats on... another popular range... for a secondary non-routed network. They can't be bothered to egress filter it on the primary routed network so we sometimes have misconfigured systems trying to ship data off to random servers on another continent.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by Turing_Machine » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 3:35 AM UTC

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #15

superdisk wrote: post #13

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I figured it was the name of an assembler for a processor called the 8003.

I thought it was a flight number and we were about to be hit with months of world news headlines into the investigations of a flight that simply disappeared.

Yeah, me too. AS = Alaska Airlines, which I fly on semi-regularly.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by justapassenger » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 3:55 AM UTC

betaby wrote: post #10

Not a popular idea here, but IPv6 folks. Even for k8s, even for your internal stuff.

Yes, IPv6 solves this problem.

But in this context - I don't think this is helpful. If you care enough (and have means to do it) to move all of your network to IPv6, then you for sure aren't using DoD space internally.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by mlindner » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 4:15 AM UTC

I'm surprised kentik is still around. They were selling an inferior product to a company I worked at that was bought by Nokia. I figured they would've gone out of business by now.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by guerrilla » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 4:40 AM UTC

I wonder if the spammers at Global Resource Systems LLC were just covert ops mapping the email space rather than IP.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by abestic9 » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 4:55 AM UTC

eppp wrote: post #29

betaby wrote: post #28

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I worked at an (residential) ISP and not a single customer has ever asked about IPv4 or IPv9 or any IPvX. They were buying 'Internet' or even 'Wi-Fi'. Now, on on the DSL reports there are plenty of questions 'When will ISP_X will support IPV6'

I get plenty of requests for static ipv4 from smb and home users.

I could see that being down to IPv4 allocation issues, specifically CG-NAT or dynamic pools, that people want to avoid.

Re: Did AS8003 just disappear?

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Post by soultrees » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 4:56 AM UTC

eppp wrote: post #29

betaby wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked at an (residential) ISP and not a single customer has ever asked about IPv4 or IPv9 or any IPvX. They were buying 'Internet' or even 'Wi-Fi'. Now, on on the DSL reports there are plenty of questions 'When will ISP_X will support IPV6'

I get plenty of requests for static ipv4 from smb and home users.

You get plenty of requests for the static part of it and less so for actual ipv4. If there was an option for static ipv6 then people would also request that instead. Static IPs have use cases that people in the wild need, however I don’t think anyone cares if it’s ipv4 or ipv6.