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OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by johnchick »

adamrezich wrote: post #17
reidjs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you guys irreplaceable?

absolutely. I was hired this year to learn how the hell all the complicated stuff the 55- and 65-year-old programmers do every day works, and I've only learned a fraction of it so far.

Sounds like your employer will have an opportunity to find someone who's clearly more competent than you.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by walterbell »

tfehring wrote: post #27
captainredbeard wrote: post #11

Why must I be vaccinated if the vaccine doesn't prevent spread? Preventing spread to other people is the only plausible reason to force everyone to take it. I am comfortable catching the disease and even comfortable dying from it (the numbers are vastly on my side). I do far riskier things on a regular basis (extreme sports) and I do not understand the infantilization of society. Join the feedlot if you want but I wi…

I think “prevent” is too imprecise a term here. The vaccines don’t eliminate the risk of spreading the virus to others. They do materially reduce the risk of spreading the virus to others.

They increase the risk of asymptomatic transmission, because vaccines suppress the symptoms of infection, which would otherwise signal the infected person to quarantine. The CDC says this can be addressed by regular testing of the vaccinated, https://archive.is/PW9SP

> The agency now advises that vaccinated people be tested for the virus if they come into contact with someone with Covid-19, even if they have no symptoms... “Our updated guidance recommends vaccinated people get tested upon exposure regardless of symptoms,” Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, the agency’s director, said in an email to The New York Times. “Testing is widely available.”

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by eutropia »

captainredbeard wrote: post #11

Why must I be vaccinated if the vaccine doesn't prevent spread? Preventing spread to other people is the only plausible reason to force everyone to take it. I am comfortable catching the disease and even comfortable dying from it (the numbers are vastly on my side). I do far riskier things on a regular basis (extreme sports) and I do not understand the infantilization of society. Join the feedlot if you want but I wi…

I'm not sure I understand the principle here of refusing the vaccine (which does reduce spread, though doesn't make it impossible).

If your employer paid you to come in early or stay late to get the vaccine -- why refuse?

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by silentmajthrw54 »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #15
asquabventured wrote: post #13

I refuse to comply with this over reach and I’m fully vaccinated

Sadly, there won't be nearly enough who feel as you do. But I wholeheartedly applaud your statement!

Created this throwaway to say that there are at least some others who agree but are too scared of the current cultural tone to speak openly about this. I feel thoroughly alienated from my peer-group and family over their fervor for this response and against any who disagree.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by captainredbeard »

eutropia wrote: post #34
captainredbeard wrote: post #11

Why must I be vaccinated if the vaccine doesn't prevent spread? Preventing spread to other people is the only plausible reason to force everyone to take it. I am comfortable catching the disease and even comfortable dying from it (the numbers are vastly on my side). I do far riskier things on a regular basis (extreme sports) and I do not understand the infantilization of society. Join the feedlot if you want but I wi…

I'm not sure I understand the principle here of refusing the vaccine (which does reduce spread, though doesn't make it impossible). If your employer paid you to come in early or stay late to get the vaccine -- why refuse?

> If your employer paid you to come in early or stay late to get the vaccine -- why refuse?

Because I make my own decisions and my willingness to do something is inversely proportional to how hard it is being pushed on me.

Re: OSHA to require employers with 100 employees vaccinate or test workforce

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Post by version_five »

asquabventured wrote: post #13

I refuse to comply with this over reach and I’m fully vaccinated

I agree and support this. People want to conflate the issues of not believing in vaccines (or whatever words they like to put in peoples mouths) and believing in having to provide proof of a personal health situation all over the place. It's convenient to pretend that anyone who is against government and corporate overreach is an "anti-vaxxer" instead of actually engage with the issue.
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