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I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

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Re: I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

#31

I've studiously avoided gaining the ability to discriminate good from bad coffee. I don't see any upsides, and the coffee snobs are insufferable.

It’s an enjoyable part of the day and a fun skill to practice.

Snobbery exists, but I think most people are just excited about the subject and perhaps overly eager to share their learnings. To some it seems snobbish, but from the coffee lover’s point of view each thing they’ve learned has made a big difference in their experience and they’d like to share that with others.

Just like any skill, there will be gatekeepers and elitists who think they are better than others. They’re the vocal minority.

Re: I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

#33
As a coffee enthusiast, I can wholeheartedly vouch each and every one of the points raised in the article, except maybe the tap water and temperature.

The biggest upgrade you can do on your setup is getting a proper coffee grinder with burrs and not blades. There's little sense in buying any fancier beans if you're grinding them in store and drinking it over a period of several weeks. In a matter of hours after grinding, the coffee will be almost as stale as it'll be in two weeks' time.

Hand grinders like Hario Skerton go for like 50 USD and something like Wilfa Svart Aroma for around 100. If you don't need espresso-level fine, then it's more than great.

Great coffee doesn't have to be expensive. If you have a local roaster and they offer single origin coffee at a sane price point, you'll make your money back in a few months time if you're an avid fan of take out coffee.

An Aeropress and electric mill will cost about 140 dollars and for example approx 20 cups of Intelligentsia coffee will cost roughly a dollar per cup. That's top shelf coffee, compared with mediocre Starbucks black coffee which will cost you double that.

I'd much rather pay for some 15 year old single malt whiskey and pay less per portion than buying Jack Daniel's from the local drinkhole.

Source: I'm a hobbyist reviewer of coffee, done some roasting and working on the judgment panel selecting Findland's best coffees.

Re: I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

#34

Or, drink the cheapest, quickest coffee you can make/get for caffeine and tea for taste. No equipment needed, less of your life wasted.

Yeah. I skip coffee altogether most of the time, and drink large amounts of black tea from yunnan instead. I get awake, but don't get an elevated pulse and tense stomach like I get from coffee.

Chinese tea is, imo, much better than Indian. So much less bitter and more fragrant. There's quite a large difference between different teas, also from the same region, so try a few different ones. I live in Copenhagen but go to a specific tea store in malmö for my tea.

Re: I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

#35
post #2

Does tap water really make that much of a difference? Anyone tried side by side?

Also curious to know the answer to this. That's one I hadn't seen before. I'm guessing the author would recommend distilled?

I'm a novice coffee enthusiast, and I was blown away by the difference appropriate water made to the coffee. I am now "making" my own water by adding optimal mineral mixture to distilled water. The results are superior to those with tap water ("raw" and filtered) or pretty much any bottled water brand that I've tested.

Re: I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

#36

I've studiously avoided gaining the ability to discriminate good from bad coffee. I don't see any upsides, and the coffee snobs are insufferable.

I was the same for years until I had a pourover at a coffee shop in NYC that knocked my socks off. I still enjoy bad coffee but the pleasure I’ve gotten from making better coffee over the years has been worth it IMO. Incidentally, it’s entirely possible to enjoy good coffee without becoming a total snob, just like it’s possible to use vim without being a dick about it :)

NY is interesting because, in a similar way that there was literally not one single edible vegetable in Manhattan before Whole Foods came to Chelsea, there wasn't a drop of decent coffee anywhere in a city of 8 million people before Zibetto opened about 15 years ago, and then Stumptown opened in the Ace Hotel, and after that it was like a revolution all over the city. But definitely late to the good coffee scene.

Re: I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

#37

As a coffee enthusiast, I can wholeheartedly vouch each and every one of the points raised in the article, except maybe the tap water and temperature. The biggest upgrade you can do on your setup is getting a proper coffee grinder with burrs and not blades. There's little sense in buying any fancier beans if you're grinding them in store and drinking it over a period of several weeks. In a matter of hours after grind…

Why I don't necessarily agree about tap water: many countries have excellent tap water and it's perfectly fine to use. If you have an automatic machine you might have to descale it a few times a year but it's perfectly fine for brewing coffee. Bottled water can often have more impurities than Finnish tap water.

Why I don't necessarily agree about temperature: coffee beans are already roasted at temperatures far hotter than 100 celcius. Any oils that would get lost due to temperature, have already evaporated at that point. If the water is too cold (like 90C or less), you risk under extracting the coffee. I think boiling is a perfectly acceptable temperature and don't notice any difference between that and 96C.

Re: I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

#38
my experience with coffee: Filter your tap water for coffee or tea, you will definitely feel the difference. Dont use a paper filter, I noticed my coffee tastes burned when I do. Buy a roast that you enjoy, I got several bags and tested at same time to determine which I enjoyed more. I keep getting the same since. But I did not see any difference if I grind the beans for 10 seconds or 2 min. So not sure I can feel the difference in grind in my palate!

Re: I'm a Coffee Roaster: Here's What You're Doing Wrong That's Ruining Your Coffee

#39

As a coffee enthusiast, I can wholeheartedly vouch each and every one of the points raised in the article, except maybe the tap water and temperature. The biggest upgrade you can do on your setup is getting a proper coffee grinder with burrs and not blades. There's little sense in buying any fancier beans if you're grinding them in store and drinking it over a period of several weeks. In a matter of hours after grind…

I have a manual grinder (Hario) and I really don't like how long it takes to grind the damn things with it. IMNSHO it adds to much friction to the process /rimshot/ and makes it that much less enjoyable. Caveat emptor, basically.
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