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Mental health impacts of a big tech job

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Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

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Quotes like this bug me: > If you find yourself in this type of situation, please do what’s best for you and get help if you are feeling stuck or overwhelmed. Get help the !@#$% where? There isn't a magic American "help" fairy who bails people out of trouble. These issues are complex, and therapists/counselors/psychologists suck up time and don't really address root causes.

You don't need professionals to help you address your issues. Friends+family+strangers at the bar can help immensely

It honestly depends on the scale of issues. Many people’s problem is that they can’t maintain positive behaviors due to some problems that stem from their family. If you can’t make (healthy) friends easily because you were traumatized during a critical stage of development, how do you get out of that negative spiral?

I honestly didn’t realize any of this until the last 1-2 years. When you’re raised in a fairly stable and supportive family environment, the level of dysfunction in other people’s home lives is completely outside of your reality.

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

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Not really my experience at Google tbh. I've been at Google for a little under 4 years and been promoted twice but only work about 4 hours a day. Sometimes I don't do shit for weeks at a time and things seem to pan out ok. I'm not trying to humble brag that I'm 10x or anything--im not, I'm a B grade engineer at best. Sure it can be stressful sometimes, but I'd say that 80% of the time it's really chill.

Lucky you. I've heard that Google was pretty relaxed. I've just started working in a big tech company myself. It's a bit early to tell but so far, I find that my colleagues are good (probably better than me) and efficient. It's not especially stressful yet, in the sense there are no hard deadlines or anything really critical, and the project is super interesting. But I can tell that if I were slacking, that would show and I wouldn't compare favorably with them. And it seems everybody is quite anxious with performance evaluations.

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

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post #17

A lot of this rings true. But I also can’t help but think (I’m not FAANG), given the kind of pay at these companies couldn’t or shouldn’t one treat these gigs like 3-4 year tour of duty, and have enough to go away and refresh for a couple of years (with a ton socked away for nest egg/ retirement?)

My hunch is that people often live at their means and its less often the case that someone earning 250-400k is living at 100k means, especially in expensive cities. So those people can build lifestyles that basically mandate having a high paying job.

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

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post #25

Quotes like this bug me: > If you find yourself in this type of situation, please do what’s best for you and get help if you are feeling stuck or overwhelmed. Get help the !@#$% where? There isn't a magic American "help" fairy who bails people out of trouble. These issues are complex, and therapists/counselors/psychologists suck up time and don't really address root causes.

A therapists job is literally to take time to address the root causes of complex issues. Maybe you’ve had bad experience with some therapists/counselors, but I wouldn’t extrapolate that to the whole field of psychology.

What are the odds of finding a good therapist? I fear that many psychologists chose their line of work not because of their analytical capabilities.

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

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Not really my experience at Google tbh. I've been at Google for a little under 4 years and been promoted twice but only work about 4 hours a day. Sometimes I don't do shit for weeks at a time and things seem to pan out ok. I'm not trying to humble brag that I'm 10x or anything--im not, I'm a B grade engineer at best. Sure it can be stressful sometimes, but I'd say that 80% of the time it's really chill.

I'd bet that you're not on one of the profit center teams... And that you don't have an oncall rotation. I worked in one of the ads teams at Google. I quit a few weeks ago, with reasons similar to the ones described in the article. I was giving just way too much of my life away for that work...

I am an SRE so I am in a rotation, I'm actually oncall right now.

I was in Corp and now I'm in Cloud. I haven't interacted with anyone in ads so I am not familiar with the experience. Do you think your peers had a similar experience as you?

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

#36
This isn't really a big tech phenomenon as similar situations occur all the time at startups and in other industries.

Sometimes the juice is worth the squeeze and sometimes it is not.

Be aware of your work-life balance or lack thereof, the impact on your health and relationships, how work affects your non-work goals, etc. and make the choice you need to make:

1) Try to set boundaries or manage up.

2) Leave for a role that is a better fit.

3) Sometimes it's worth the grind if you are learning enough or being paid enough to stick it out for a bit.

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

#37
At this point I want to figure out a way to work 6 months out of the year at 75$ an hour or so. Then max out my 401k and take 6 months off( see my other thread , I'd do this in a cheaper country)

My theory is I'd end up paying very little taxes compared to working myself mad trying to hit 200k a year.

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

#38
Blog like this makes me wonder if I even want to work for FAANG companies anymore. I have never worked for a big corp and never for FAANG companies in particular.

>What I found was that the decent salary and excellent benefits came at a much greater cost.

I know you can get in with a big paycheck work your ass for 10 years and get out with lot of money in your bank. Maybe it my early 20s. Now I'm 35+ I don;t have the motivation to be a Google or Apple Software Engineer. I work in small firm and on interesting problems, and I'm OK with it.

> If it was after 6PM and I heard a notification on my phone, the hair on the back of my neck would stand up. Often times it was someone from work asking a seemingly innocent question.

This happens to me at my current job. But I don't have similar reaction to it. I'm more like "Oh, someone is working late..." And I respond to their queries. I believe performance and getting your task done faster has to do something? I know Amazon PIP thing is scary place to end with. No idea just read it on HN.

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

#39

Not really my experience at Google tbh. I've been at Google for a little under 4 years and been promoted twice but only work about 4 hours a day. Sometimes I don't do shit for weeks at a time and things seem to pan out ok. I'm not trying to humble brag that I'm 10x or anything--im not, I'm a B grade engineer at best. Sure it can be stressful sometimes, but I'd say that 80% of the time it's really chill.

I think it depends on what division you’re in and what role you have. I was TL of a team in Cloud and I ran myself ragged. I was getting anxiety attacks every day and felt a literal weight sinking into me as the bus approached the building. I took a 6mo medical leave and still haven’t really recovered.

Re: Mental health impacts of a big tech job

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> but the big difference between then and now was that when I was home, I was home. Work stopped, and I could do something else for a bit and didn’t have to worry about anything until the next work day. I didn’t feel much of the mental fatigue I do now.

This really has nothing to do with Big Tech and is a nearly universal characteristic of any job that requires mental effort instead of physical. Yeah, if you're getting paid to move boxes all day, the boxes don't follow you home. If you get paid to think all day, the thoughts do. Nothing much you can do about that other than learn to deal with it.

My friends who are scientists think about their research in their free time, and worry about upcoming conference deadlines, etc. My friends who are lawyers think about their cases and upcoming filing deadlines. My friends on the business and sales side think about clients and deals and marketing. That's just how it goes. Be glad someone is willing to pay you for it and that your brain doesn't wear out from thinking the way your back wears out from carrying boxes.

This person just sounds like they have trouble setting boundaries and some general anxiety issues. I am a SWE at a FANG company right now, in a reasonably important and high-profile area, and the work-life balance is way better than any other job I've had at smaller companies both in and out of "tech".

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