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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#31

It is hard to make an argument against YT having the highest reach among vloging platforms. However, repeated guests not gaining as many Twitter followers as they did after first visit might be an indication of diminishing returns

Could also be a commensurate drop in interest in Twitter

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#32
This is less a problem for Joe than it is for his advertisers. I wonder about the effectiveness of pre-roll ads vs extremely annoying mid-sentence ad breaks scattered through the episode. Use to be joe was one of the more enjoyable blocks of 3 hour content to listen to because there were no commercial breaks.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#34
Spotify video leaves a lot to be desired as compared to youtube. They should stick to audio and improve on it. I dont understand, why do I need to go through ads for JR show even though I pay for spotify premium.

The best part of youtube is that one could search through and get excerpts of the video. I could easily find JRs tidbits without the need of going through the entire interview. I still see some of the older excerpts in youtube, but less so in spotify.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#35
I stopped watching purely due to the Spotify deal. I was willing to give it a try until I saw that they were memoryholing episodes. I might be in the minority here but it felt like a betrayal. If he wanted more money he could’ve invested in his own platform like many others and people would’ve followed. There’s plenty of other content in the sea.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#36
All regular media consumption is down, ratings for all news is down, I think we're all suffering from social media consumption fatigue, and there's is also an explosion of podcasts to listen to now.

The Economist has daily 45 minutes, Conan O'Brien is on audio only etc..

And he might actually have a broader audience than before, does it matter that much that guests 'new follower' metrics are down?

I think there's a broader context to consider here.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#38

I don't blaming him for taking the money from Spotify. He has ensured his descendants' wealth for probably a few generations. Good for him. I still see clips of him on YouTube. How does that work given his deal with Spotify, anyone know?

They are are allowed to upload snippets but are limited in length and number of clips they are permitted to upload per episode. I assume they provide the allowance for purely promotional reasons. Personally, I find the clips too short to be particularly interesting

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#39
post #8

I thought this at first, but now think the opposite is true. His viewpoints were more diluted previously. A smaller base is of regular listeners paradoxically makes his messages stronger.

Inasmuch as his message doesn't offend Spotify, their key strategic partners, or their financial service providers -- sure, I'll buy that.

Censorship is worse on YouTube. Think of how many affiliates YouTube/google/nbc has. I’d say more than Spotify. There’s a reason AM radio has more “extreme” content than FM radio. A wider audience means more people to appease; have to cater to the common denominator.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#40
Yeah I know I stopped listening since the show went exclusive. I didn't listen to every single episode he did, but I did listen pretty regularly. I have not seen a single one since and don't really care to.

I won't get an account with a company just to hear what you have to say. If you require that, as far as I'm concerned your influence just waned a little. I'm steadfast and unflinching in this, it is a firm rule I have.

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