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U.S. Senate Democrats roll out draft bill to legalize weed

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Re: U.S. Senate Democrats roll out draft bill to legalize weed

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At some point you pick a number, it will always seem somewhat arbitrary.

How about the same number that lets you vote, and decide where you live, or get drafted, and get married without parental consent, and get medical care without parental consent?

If we want to go down the human developmental discussion ... not sure that results in more options or less for those under 21...

Re: U.S. Senate Democrats roll out draft bill to legalize weed

#32

>>He added that marijuana use needs more research. I wish that we had this same attitude towards chemicals sprayed on crops where it seems to be everything is fine until proven to be harmful. Yet with weed it is harmful until proven safe. Also, I suspect there is plenty of research on the safety of weed edit: to all of those arguing that there may be/ are dangers to weed, I don't disagree. How about the fact that I c…

This is a common tactic to simply delay an unwanted bill without providing a substantive reason why. Nothing further should be read into it.

Re: U.S. Senate Democrats roll out draft bill to legalize weed

#33
post #12

>The draft set the minimum age required to buy cannabis at 21 21? Haven't we as a society progressed past this pernicious discrimination!

The brain is developing until around 25, so if anything, the age should be higher if the intent is to prevent unsafe use.

That would also then apply to other legal drugs, such as alcohol, no? Does alcohol not affect a developing brain in people under 25?

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#34
post #10
post #2

Seems strange to me that a purportedly high-integrity journalistic organization would refer to it as ‘weed’ in the headline. Is ‘cannabis’ not click-baity enough for Reuters?

To me it immediately connotes a recreational use, which is a useful distinction from purely medical (or pseudo-medical) applications. So the word seems appropriate even if part of the familiar venacular.

that makes sense. What is pseudo-medical? Drugs to alter mood can be prescribed, but if they aren't is it recreational or self medication? If boredom is causing distress, could the drugs taken to ease it be considered medical? That may be a really bad idea for robust mental health, but sadly that is sometimes true for the prescribed drugs as well.

Re: U.S. Senate Democrats roll out draft bill to legalize weed

#35
post #5

> would expunge federal non-violent marijuana crimes, further medical research and allow cannabis companies access to essential financial services. Sounds like all good things but I dont see how this will make it through such a divided senate where obstructionism is the de-facto opposition strategy.

I think putting the opposition party on the record on this issue is part of the strategy because it is seen as broadly popular.

Re: U.S. Senate Democrats roll out draft bill to legalize weed

#36

Definitely appreciate that this seems to be heading in the right direction. > limited retail sales transactions at the state level to 10 ounces of cannabis at a time What's the intent of a rule like that? Prevent one 21 year old from buying a pound for his under-21 friends? I feel like alcohol has proven that this is pretty futile. Is there some other point?

My guess would be that the intent is to put a roadblock in the way of anyone trying to make an illegal secondary market.

Re: U.S. Senate Democrats roll out draft bill to legalize weed

#37
post #18

Now that half the states have already legalized it and reaps a ton in tax revenue, the fed wants their cut at a time when tax revenue is drying up. These states have been ignoring federal law for a very long time now, without consequence, so there might as well not be that law if you're not going to actually enforce it.

Money doesn't seem to be a motivating factor for Democrats. I believe decriminalizing marijuana related crimes is likely higher on the agenda.

Regardless of what states have done, without Federal legalization, marijuana businesses are cut off from most financial products provided by the "mainstream" financial institutions, including aid from the Federal Government during emergencies (e.g. the current pandemic). So this step would be quite impactful.

Re: U.S. Senate Democrats roll out draft bill to legalize weed

#39
post #5

> would expunge federal non-violent marijuana crimes, further medical research and allow cannabis companies access to essential financial services. Sounds like all good things but I dont see how this will make it through such a divided senate where obstructionism is the de-facto opposition strategy.

The banks are chomping at the bit to get in on this revenue and so we can hope their influence with the right is enough to move them. The expunging of crimes is probably going to be the nonstarter that kills it. The 'party of law and order' doesn't like the idea of people 'disrespecting the law' and often react strongly to any suggestion that someone who knowingly broke the law, when it was the law, being excused for that post behavior. These are the same people that insist you refer to judges as 'your honor' and are happy to throw you in jail for 'disrespecting' the judge, which in real life translates to don't you dare talk back or disagree even when they are being unreasonable or even downright hostile themselves. As distasteful as it is, I think we would be better served to remove that and focus on locking down the major win of not ruining anymore lives moving forward.

Either way, the tide is clearly turning with so many states refusing to comply with the federal ban, and the federal government refusing to punish those states for it, that it is clear it will happen eventually.

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