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Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by mwcampbell »

sauravmitra wrote: post #23
0x62 wrote: post #16

Absolutely no chance I'm paying $15/mo for a browser without: - Extensions - Adblock - No support for CMD+W (?)

Good points! We're working on extensions and Adblock right now, so should be out soon! For CMD-W, we're trying to change how you think about pages to something you "mark as done" as opposed to just "close", and changing the shortcut helps make that change for users. Try it out and let me know if you think it's necessary to support CMD-W :)

> We're working on extensions and Adblock right now, so should be out soon!

Do you find that your decision to use WebKit is getting in your way here?

As it happens, my company is also working on a browser for a niche userbase (not competing with you!), and I decided to go with Electron rather than Microsoft's WebView2 because it seemed to me that that option would give us more flexibility to deeply customize both the chrome and the content. Our target user base is mostly on Windows, not Mac, so Apple WebKit wasn't on the table for us.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by secondcoming »

simonvc wrote: post #2

Been beta testing this (full disclosure, angel invester) and i can honestly say i miss it when i'm not on my Big Sur machine. Vim keybindings are such a win, and Sigma does it better than all previous attempts at a vim-like browser because it's properly modal. You hit i to Insert (interact) with a page and escape to go back to controlling the browser. Or you can ignore all that and just use it as a tabs-on-the-sed br…

Except vim's interface is confusing

https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/05/23/stack-overflow-helping...

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

sauravmitra wrote: post #11
downvote_korok wrote: post #6

looks nice. is it chromium based ? what about supporting other platforms

Thanks! It's based on WebKit directly. We definitely want to support Windows and Linux eventually, but for now we're focusing on MacOS.

Chromium also includes the V8 Javascript engine; what do you use for JS?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by WA »

simonvc wrote: post #2

Been beta testing this (full disclosure, angel invester) and i can honestly say i miss it when i'm not on my Big Sur machine. Vim keybindings are such a win, and Sigma does it better than all previous attempts at a vim-like browser because it's properly modal. You hit i to Insert (interact) with a page and escape to go back to controlling the browser. Or you can ignore all that and just use it as a tabs-on-the-sed br…

I'm probably not in the target market, but the slowest thing in a browser these days, for me, is the obnoxious closing of cookie banners and newsletter popups.

Hence, uBlock Origin + cosmetic filter list. The productivity boost is more than any keyboard assignment can ever do I guess.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by sauravmitra »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #26

A subscription model for a browser seems like a very, very niche market to me - but then that's the vim angle. For me, hard to justify $15 for a relativity feature-lite browser. You would need a stronger value proposition. I think most of these features can be reproduced for free on any other browser. Split view is neat but I do that already with chrome and spectacle, both free.

Vim is awesome because it makes me fast at what I do. I use Vim for everything when I code, except for Swift (Xcode).

I feel fast when I'm using SigmaOS. And we hope our users do too.

We'll be adding features that our users need as we go forward. VPN would definitely be great.

While you're here, anything else you think would be cool?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by sauravmitra »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #26

A subscription model for a browser seems like a very, very niche market to me - but then that's the vim angle. For me, hard to justify $15 for a relativity feature-lite browser. You would need a stronger value proposition. I think most of these features can be reproduced for free on any other browser. Split view is neat but I do that already with chrome and spectacle, both free.

I found out Spectacle was deprecated when I got the new machine, but Rectangle seems to be its successor. Awesome tools! :D

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by deltasixeight »

Jyaif wrote: post #22

To the people saying $15 is too much: SigmaOS is almost certainly targeting companies, not individual users. If this makes employees save 30 minutes per month, it's worth it for the company. Speaking of browser-related productivity, I recently learned about this very useful Chrome shortcut that allows you to search among your open tabs: ctrl-shift-A (windows), command-shift-A (macOS)

> To the people saying $15 is too much: SigmaOS is almost certainly targeting companies, not individual users.

Doubtful, individual signups and education discounts show otherwise.

Even as a company I'd be reluctant to purchase this.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by dwb »

I'm so, so in for browser modernisation, I really like the look of what you're doing, I'm a devoted vim addict, and I'll be trying the demo later. But honestly $15/month is extremely pushing it, to the point that I probably won't go for it.

Presumably i[Pad]OS is on the roadmap?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by MahyadGhassemi »

elpax wrote: post #14

I literally never post comments on HN but what is this product. Is this $15/month browser for MacOS ? Fancy browser with grouped tabs, split-screen and sharing but still just browser. I think I'm just too poor to understand. I hope that your product will succeed because then I will know that in this world you can sell ice to an eskimo.

Thanks for taking the time to make us the first post to post a comment about. The one thing to keep mind is this a browser designed for professionals more than personal use. Example would be WhatsApp vs Slack. Granted some people use even WhatsApp for work, but at companies and within teams Slack is used more because of the structure it gives. Now yes there is a freemium version of Slack but to get the most out of it for teams, you need to updated to organisation pricing which at that point it is paid. Again appreciate taking the time to let us know what you think
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