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Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#31

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

I think language matters, and de-normalizing language with a root in slavery is a good idea.

the usage of master in "Master Password" is an adjective; seems like pretty a weak connection to the noun "Master" in the context of slavery

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#32

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

Master/Slave nomenclature is considered "problematic language" (because it harks back to slavery), and thus often replaced with more PC language these days. My organization had a whole "fix this nomenclature throughout the whole codebase" week (things like "black-/whitelist, master/slave, ....)

Fine, but at least make it consistent then. GitHub uses "main" and now this uses "primary", next someone will use "base" and I'm not sure at all how this is better in any way.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#33

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

It's Virtue Signalling and beyond pathetic

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#34
post #9

Can someone explain what the deal with 91 is? I'm on 78, and no updates are found. On the submission's web site there is "Thunderbird version 91.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 78 or earlier." Why is that? Is upgrading safe? And thunderbird.net only offers me 78, anyway.

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Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#35

I really like Thunderbird and I use it as my primary personal email client. Just, where can I pay to speed up the development of this feature? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 I find a proper 3 pane view to be essential in 2021

I completely agree. This is what I check every time there’s news about Thunderbird before I consider switching.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think language matters, and de-normalizing language with a root in slavery is a good idea.

the usage of master in "Master Password" is an adjective; seems like pretty a weak connection to the noun "Master" in the context of slavery

See many previous discussions on this and adjectival use of terms like 'black'.

Combine hipster virtue signalling with Americans' legendary cultural and historical parochialism and you get a perfect storm of this kind of idiocy.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#37

> "Master Password" renamed to "Primary Password" How does the term "Primary Password" describe the password which enables access to the list of credentials better than "Master Password"? Are they just entertained by the alliteration?

I think language matters, and de-normalizing language with a root in slavery is a good idea.

"Master Key" precedes or is parallel to the Atlantic slave trade. I don't believe it has a root in slavery. Master Password is surely more related to Master Key than to any other sense of Master.

Not arguing that it should or shouldn't be changed. They can change it for alliteration for all I care. Just want to talk about this etymology because that interests me.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#38
post #20
post #9

Can someone explain what the deal with 91 is? I'm on 78, and no updates are found. On the submission's web site there is "Thunderbird version 91.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 78 or earlier." Why is that? Is upgrading safe? And thunderbird.net only offers me 78, anyway.

> And thunderbird.net only offers me 78, anyway. It seems to be downloadable here: https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/thunderbird/r...

Thanks.

In typical Mozilla fashion, the link to download 91 on their Release Notes [0] page just goes back to their frontpage again.

[0] https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/91.0/releaseno...

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#39
post #9

Can someone explain what the deal with 91 is? I'm on 78, and no updates are found. On the submission's web site there is "Thunderbird version 91.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 78 or earlier." Why is that? Is upgrading safe? And thunderbird.net only offers me 78, anyway.

Updates are delayed to give add-on developers time to update their add-ons to be compatible with Thunderbird 91 if changes are necessary.

I won't hold my breath. I'm still waiting for a couple of my favourite plugins to be updated to support version 78.

Re: Thunderbird 91.0

#40
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if this is moving away from master/slave terminology similar to e.g. https://www.vice.com/en/article/8x7akv/masterslave-terminolo...

I've literally never heard of a slave password.

that's more of a database (and other) term.
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