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Interesting that this arrest follows just a week after a series of other arrests in USA/UK/NL regarding LulzSec and Anonymous: http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/07/20/arrests-lulzsec-a... Not a good time to be a hacktivist
Hacktivists? These guys are breaking into private companies and stealing property. They're criminals .
I'm curious what led to all the arrests. It's not that hard to hide your identity if you truly want to be anonymous.
For computer crime do they have to be able to draw a direct line from the act to the person's computer? Also, does a persons computer legally mean they committed the crime? What I'm getting at is, could a group like LulzSec guarantee lighter sentences for themselves if a line could be drawn from the crime to the group but you couldn't determine who actually hit the keyboard?
>One important feature of a conspiracy charge is that it relieves prosecutors of the need to prove the particular roles of conspirators. If two persons plot to kill another (and this can be proven), and the victim is indeed killed as a result of the actions of either conspirator, it is not necessary to prove with specificity which of the conspirators actually pulled the trigger.[1]
I'd assume English law has something equivalent -- it's a really old problem, and involving computers won't change the principles involved.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_%28crime%29#Conspira...
For computer crime do they have to be able to draw a direct line from the act to the person's computer? Also, does a persons computer legally mean they committed the crime? What I'm getting at is, could a group like LulzSec guarantee lighter sentences for themselves if a line could be drawn from the crime to the group but you couldn't determine who actually hit the keyboard?
In the US, they could be charged with "Conspiracy to commit ". > One important feature of a conspiracy charge is that it relieves prosecutors of the need to prove the particular roles of conspirators. If two persons plot to kill another (and this can be proven), and the victim is indeed killed as a result of the actions of either conspirator, it is not necessary to prove with specificity which of the conspirators act…
The other day his Twitter feed was cleaned up and a single tweet remained: http://twitter.com/#!/atopiary/status/94225773896015872 reading "You cannot arrest an idea". I guess he saw this coming.
Almost positive that's a direct quote toward the end of Alan Moore's V for Vendetta . Which kinda makes me grin and roll my eyes at the same time.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hacktivists? These guys are breaking into private companies and stealing property. They're criminals .
Activists tend to break laws, no?
Living as I do in the San Francisco bay area, I encounter all forms of activists from people living in trees on college campuses (illegally) to folks who provide services to undocumented workers, to folks who expose security flaws on web sites. Of the ones with whom I've been able to talk briefly about their goals, all of them did not grasp that the results of activism are later perceived through the dialog of what the people that 'win' write. (sort of a variation on the winners write the history)
I'm curious what led to all the arrests. It's not that hard to hide your identity if you truly want to be anonymous.
The other day his Twitter feed was cleaned up and a single tweet remained: http://twitter.com/#!/atopiary/status/94225773896015872 reading "You cannot arrest an idea". I guess he saw this coming.
I get the impression reading some of the blogs that some of the arrests recently have in fact picked up people who were 'known' to other people who might very well become somewhat more cautious.
I find it hard to believe that European kids care that much about the CIA or Arizona's immigration laws. Yet many of these alleged LulzSec arrests seem to be in Europe.