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Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Post by throwaway128374 »

blowski wrote: post #16
KingOfCoders wrote: post #9

Some years ago you had to pay for updates and they were very slow to add new streets. Has this changed with OSM?

Depends on the package you buy. I have a "lifetime subscription", so theoretically I'll never need to pay for an update. ...but then newer devices only work with newer versions of the service, for which you haven't got a lifetime subscription. Eventually, your old TomTom stops working and your subscription is now worthless so you have to buy a new one.

If you look at the data that the MyDrive smartphone app shows for each device, you'll notice that the "lifetime subscription" has a fixed expiry date. It appeared to be ~10 years for the devices I looked at. I could not see this information any other way except via the MyDrive app.

Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Post by apnorton »

This is cool data! ...however, I must ask --- where does the data come from?

HN certainly has a side that loves open-source data, but it also has a privacy-loving side. Focusing on the privacy aspects, has TomTom given any consideration to how it respects the privacy of its users/does it allow for opt-out of storing and analyzing its users' GPS traces?

Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Post by antattack »

zaik wrote: post #30
antattack wrote: post #27

Can anyone recommend good interface to OpenStreeMaps? I installed OsmAnd on my Android Radio (9" 720p) and find menu options/icons are too tiny (and too many) to operate while driving.

How about Organic Maps? https://f-droid.org/packages/app.organicmaps

Thanks, I'll definitively give it a go.

Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Post by mdp2021 »

antattack wrote: post #27

Can anyone recommend good interface to OpenStreeMaps? I installed OsmAnd on my Android Radio (9" 720p) and find menu options/icons are too tiny (and too many) to operate while driving.

Surely warmly recommendable: OruxMaps.

I think you can find the apk at oruxmaps.com

> to OpenStreeMaps

Can I suggest you also try DerStefan's OpenTopoMap, at opentopomap.org .

Also, through the GitHub based instructions from DerStefan, you can build your own maps (tiles). It is an job requiring equipment and time, but it can lead to amazing results (well above the maps you can find around).

Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

#36

Post by vanderZwan »

tinus_hn wrote: post #28
SteveCoast wrote: post #14

Woo! Happy to answer any questions...

What is the business case for this? I don’t understand how TomTom has an advantage by improving openstreetmaps.

TomTom relies on maps for many of their products. OSM provides maps. Doesn't exactly sound like rocket science to me.

Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Post by ris »

SteveCoast wrote: post #22
mongol wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is this supported? Seems only a few selected areas?

The aim is globally, we're working on speeding it up and cleaning out trains and water... We'll probably finish the US within a few days and move on to the EU or other places.

Can imagine train traces particularly being tricky. Might have to build a separate routing graph of just train lines and filter out any traces that match that too strongly - though I don't think people mapping train lines in OSM work too hard to get train lines' routeability right...

Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Post by SteveCoast »

ris wrote: post #37
SteveCoast wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The aim is globally, we're working on speeding it up and cleaning out trains and water... We'll probably finish the US within a few days and move on to the EU or other places.

Can imagine train traces particularly being tricky. Might have to build a separate routing graph of just train lines and filter out any traces that match that too strongly - though I don't think people mapping train lines in OSM work too hard to get train lines' routeability right...

Great minds think alike...

Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Post by fencepost »

tinus_hn wrote: post #28
SteveCoast wrote: post #14

Woo! Happy to answer any questions...

What is the business case for this? I don’t understand how TomTom has an advantage by improving openstreetmaps.

TomTom has GPS traces, but if those traces lead to OSM crowdsourced corrections without rolling a vehicle then they get better data faster. This may be particularly relevant for highway changes with no associated street addresses.

Re: Happy Birthday, OpenStreetMap

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Post by lucb1e »

vanderZwan wrote: post #36
tinus_hn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the business case for this? I don’t understand how TomTom has an advantage by improving openstreetmaps.

TomTom relies on maps for many of their products. OSM provides maps. Doesn't exactly sound like rocket science to me.

So far as I was aware, TomTom provides a commercial alternative to OSM data. Them helping OSM in that context takes some rocket calculus / is a valid question.
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