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Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by MrStonedOne »

saurik wrote: post #11
Quequau wrote: post #2

I'm a mod on Reddit and in a few of the subreddits I moderate I see a steady stream of accounts promoting online sex work, like onlyfans. None of these subreddits welcome promotion or advertising... or for that matter NSFW content. However, so many of these accounts advertise their sex work by posting content that ostensibly complies with the community rules but which somehow encourages other users to look at their u…

> I can't believe I've been subjected to the level of abuse I'm getting from people who are on average making less than $145 a month. Can you unpack this sentence and explain what it is about "people who are on average making less than $145 a month" that makes the abuse you are getting from them specifically unbelievable? (edit: Wow, -3 after only 20 minutes?... I guess people on HN apparently really hate the idea th…

You're getting downvoted because you made a bad faith assumption in a way that comes off as hostile.

> I guess people on HN apparently really hate the idea that people who happen to be poorer than us deserve respect.

They don't, they hate people who make that assumption.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by intricatedetail »

gambiting wrote: post #21
intricatedetail wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like any other employment. Can you be more precise?

No, can you be more precise? Do you know how OnlyFans works? It’s like reading that majority of seller accounts on eBay make less than $145 a month and then replying that they should be treated like employees - employees of who? eBay? OnlyFans lets you sell your content online, just like you would on eBay or Etsy - if you want to make more money then…make more content? Or make content that people want to buy? I don’t…

Isn't that the same as taking overtime as an employee? They are working for the benefit of OF. It's like saying a factory let's you assemble phones and if you want to make more money assemble more.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by jcims »

saurik wrote: post #11
Quequau wrote: post #2

I'm a mod on Reddit and in a few of the subreddits I moderate I see a steady stream of accounts promoting online sex work, like onlyfans. None of these subreddits welcome promotion or advertising... or for that matter NSFW content. However, so many of these accounts advertise their sex work by posting content that ostensibly complies with the community rules but which somehow encourages other users to look at their u…

> I can't believe I've been subjected to the level of abuse I'm getting from people who are on average making less than $145 a month. Can you unpack this sentence and explain what it is about "people who are on average making less than $145 a month" that makes the abuse you are getting from them specifically unbelievable? (edit: Wow, -3 after only 20 minutes?... I guess people on HN apparently really hate the idea th…

The point isn’t that they are ‘only’ making $145 a month. It’s that people are willing to be abusive to other humans over it. It’s like those annoying relatives that are willing to throw away any authenticity in their relationship with you in order to hustle their shitty MLM product that is making them next to nothing.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by MrStonedOne »

intricatedetail wrote: post #9

Why those people are not treated as employees and paid at least a minimum wage?

When porn companies treat models as employees, they pay them 300 dollars for a video that makes them 3 million dollars.

If i post a clip of a speech explaining how to program on youtube, and link to my paypal where you can buy the full video, shipped via mega, who should pay me as an employee? i think we can both agree nobody.

If somebody makes a website to make it easier such that you can do all 3 steps in one place, all of the sudden they should pay me as an employee?

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by sokoloff »

saurik wrote: post #11
Quequau wrote: post #2

I'm a mod on Reddit and in a few of the subreddits I moderate I see a steady stream of accounts promoting online sex work, like onlyfans. None of these subreddits welcome promotion or advertising... or for that matter NSFW content. However, so many of these accounts advertise their sex work by posting content that ostensibly complies with the community rules but which somehow encourages other users to look at their u…

> I can't believe I've been subjected to the level of abuse I'm getting from people who are on average making less than $145 a month. Can you unpack this sentence and explain what it is about "people who are on average making less than $145 a month" that makes the abuse you are getting from them specifically unbelievable? (edit: Wow, -3 after only 20 minutes?... I guess people on HN apparently really hate the idea th…

You’re getting downvoted presumably because you’ve missed the intent of that comment by a country mile.

If a mod has to deal with repeated vitriol from people making money indirectly from the platform, it seems reasonable for them to assume that the amount of money at stake is more than a few dollars per day.

It was about “why is this small amount worth so much aggravation?!” not “why is this poor beggar bothering me?!”

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by hellbannedguy »

OoMDbL wrote: post #16
intricatedetail wrote: post #9

Why those people are not treated as employees and paid at least a minimum wage?

Should youtube pay all of its content creators minimum wage?

Maybe--especially if Google is making a net profit of the video?

We have been giving away our work/crap away for years now, maybe it's time to demand a bit of money from the monopoly?

I think they could afford to give back?

(And yes--I know some people are paid Youtubers.)

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by morelikeborelax »

intricatedetail wrote: post #32
gambiting wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, can you be more precise? Do you know how OnlyFans works? It’s like reading that majority of seller accounts on eBay make less than $145 a month and then replying that they should be treated like employees - employees of who? eBay? OnlyFans lets you sell your content online, just like you would on eBay or Etsy - if you want to make more money then…make more content? Or make content that people want to buy? I don’t…

Isn't that the same as taking overtime as an employee? They are working for the benefit of OF. It's like saying a factory let's you assemble phones and if you want to make more money assemble more.

Onlyfans is a service not a content provider or media company.

What you are suggesting is akin to Shopify, Etsy or eBay paying a minimum wage to sellers.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by [deleted] »

Quequau wrote: post #2

I'm a mod on Reddit and in a few of the subreddits I moderate I see a steady stream of accounts promoting online sex work, like onlyfans. None of these subreddits welcome promotion or advertising... or for that matter NSFW content. However, so many of these accounts advertise their sex work by posting content that ostensibly complies with the community rules but which somehow encourages other users to look at their u…

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Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by Lazare »

saurik wrote: post #11
Quequau wrote: post #2

I'm a mod on Reddit and in a few of the subreddits I moderate I see a steady stream of accounts promoting online sex work, like onlyfans. None of these subreddits welcome promotion or advertising... or for that matter NSFW content. However, so many of these accounts advertise their sex work by posting content that ostensibly complies with the community rules but which somehow encourages other users to look at their u…

> I can't believe I've been subjected to the level of abuse I'm getting from people who are on average making less than $145 a month. Can you unpack this sentence and explain what it is about "people who are on average making less than $145 a month" that makes the abuse you are getting from them specifically unbelievable? (edit: Wow, -3 after only 20 minutes?... I guess people on HN apparently really hate the idea th…

I think what OP meant was something like:

"I've been getting abused by people promoting OF content. I assumed they were doing this because it made them thousands and thousands of dollars and they were making a living doing it, but if they're only making $145 per month from their OF account, then why do they care so much?"

(The obvious objection here is that nothing in the linked analysis suggests the people abusing Reddit mods are only making $145 a month from OF, and in fact, the analysis seems to be pretty clear that the median active creator on OF is making much more.)

As for your comment, I did not downvote you so can't explain why other's might, but I assume it's because you seemed to have misread the comment in an uncharitable way.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by gambiting »

intricatedetail wrote: post #32
gambiting wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, can you be more precise? Do you know how OnlyFans works? It’s like reading that majority of seller accounts on eBay make less than $145 a month and then replying that they should be treated like employees - employees of who? eBay? OnlyFans lets you sell your content online, just like you would on eBay or Etsy - if you want to make more money then…make more content? Or make content that people want to buy? I don’t…

Isn't that the same as taking overtime as an employee? They are working for the benefit of OF. It's like saying a factory let's you assemble phones and if you want to make more money assemble more.

No? Of course it isn't. They allow you to sell your content and take a small cut for giving you access to the platform. Just like eBay takes 10% of every sale for you know....letting you list your stuff on their website.

>>It's like saying a factory let's you assemble phones and if you want to make more money assemble more.

I literally can't see how it's even remotely comparable.

If you want to make more money on eBay, list more items on eBay. If you want to make more money on OnlyFans.....list more content on OnlyFans. Or move to a different platform, or make content that people actually want to buy.

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