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Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Re: Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Post by Roritharr »

uladzislau wrote: post #11

The question really translates to: why companies are not taking risks today? The bigger risks are - the larger would be the profits from exploiting the risks. Creativity and innovation are huge risks but you you need to take them if you want to be successful today. "me too" strategy won't take you far. Apple is the best example for this point. Remember Steve Jobs announcing "year of copycats"?

You won't get Apple rich with a "me too" attitude, but if you perfect your "me too" methods, you can become extremely wealthy.

Lookup the german Samwer brothers for example...

Re: Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Post by orangecat »

rdouble wrote: post #24
daimyoyo wrote: post #23

What I find ironic is that in order to work for Apple today, you need a spotless academic record since gradeschool. I doubt very much that Apple would hire a Reed College dropout today.

That is not true. Apple is not like Google or Goldman Sachs. They do not ask for your GPA or care where you went to school. edit: hate to be down-vote curious, but I would be interested to hear if someone has been rejected from Apple for having a poor GPA. I've interviewed with Apple and nobody asked about my degree or GPA. It was the most on-topic job interview I've ever had. No weird brainteasers or annoying FizzBu…

Apple is not like Google or Goldman Sachs. They do not ask for your GPA or care where you went to school.

By that definition, Google is not like Google.

Re: Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Post by rdouble »

orangecat wrote: post #32
rdouble wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not true. Apple is not like Google or Goldman Sachs. They do not ask for your GPA or care where you went to school. edit: hate to be down-vote curious, but I would be interested to hear if someone has been rejected from Apple for having a poor GPA. I've interviewed with Apple and nobody asked about my degree or GPA. It was the most on-topic job interview I've ever had. No weird brainteasers or annoying FizzBu…

Apple is not like Google or Goldman Sachs. They do not ask for your GPA or care where you went to school. By that definition, Google is not like Google.

Has Google stopped asking for GPAs?

Re: Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Post by cHalgan »

rdouble wrote: post #24
daimyoyo wrote: post #23

What I find ironic is that in order to work for Apple today, you need a spotless academic record since gradeschool. I doubt very much that Apple would hire a Reed College dropout today.

That is not true. Apple is not like Google or Goldman Sachs. They do not ask for your GPA or care where you went to school. edit: hate to be down-vote curious, but I would be interested to hear if someone has been rejected from Apple for having a poor GPA. I've interviewed with Apple and nobody asked about my degree or GPA. It was the most on-topic job interview I've ever had. No weird brainteasers or annoying FizzBu…

You are right. Apple is more like Oracle and Microsoft: they look for a talent and they will happily ignore GPA or lack of degree.

However, that does not mean it is easier to get job at Apple than Google. Not at all.

Re: Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Post by calloc »

rdouble wrote: post #33
orangecat wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is not like Google or Goldman Sachs. They do not ask for your GPA or care where you went to school. By that definition, Google is not like Google.

Has Google stopped asking for GPAs?

Not since I last interviewed.

Re: Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Post by e1ven »

meric wrote: post #20
prawn wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can be a cofounder with all those attributes, regardless of VC. You could also create something so compelling that VCs would overlook any concerns like that when it got to that stage of needing further investment.

It's not as easy for startups to create vertically integrated hardware devices these days.

The time was right for the Personal Computer revolution in 1977. In 1997, it was the Internet revolution.

In 2007, it was the Social revolution.

There's always opportunity, you just need to find what is now worldchanging, which would be difficult, expensive, or plain impossible before.

Re: Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Post by orangecat »

rdouble wrote: post #33
orangecat wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is not like Google or Goldman Sachs. They do not ask for your GPA or care where you went to school. By that definition, Google is not like Google.

Has Google stopped asking for GPAs?

There's a space for it on the application, but neither the recruiter nor interviewers appeared to care about my formal education at all. I don't know how much of a factor it plays in the decision process, but the idea that Google only pays attention to candidates with CS degrees from top-tier universities is false.

Re: Why Steve Jobs Couldn’t Find a Job Today

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Post by ori_b »

rdouble wrote: post #33
orangecat wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is not like Google or Goldman Sachs. They do not ask for your GPA or care where you went to school. By that definition, Google is not like Google.

Has Google stopped asking for GPAs?

They asked for mine, but they didn't seem to care much about it. If they had, they wouldn't have hired me. My grades were not good at all.
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