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Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by lovecg »

diego wrote: post #4

This is misguided. Let's say this campaign succeeds. Maybe 10% of the cups will be recycled, leaving still a ton of waste. It would be much more effective to campaign against single-use cups. I grew up in a time in which you had to bring an empty bottle glass bottle to a shop, and they would take it and give you a full one, which you'd bring back empty next time. If you didn't have one, you'd leave a deposit (effecti…

Wondering what the economics of keeping single use cups but making them out of aluminum would look like? It’s one of the more valuable recyclables (to the point where homeless people will collect them to make some money).

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by tootie »

mjevans wrote: post #6

"The paper cups Starbucks currently uses contain a plastic lining" When someone says "Paper" cup, I assume paper and some kind of wax as a sealant, not plastic. I wonder if this violates any kind of FDA or FTC rules?

Isn't the material used irrelevant though? You can't recycle any paper product once it's been stained with food.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by beiller »

diego wrote: post #4

This is misguided. Let's say this campaign succeeds. Maybe 10% of the cups will be recycled, leaving still a ton of waste. It would be much more effective to campaign against single-use cups. I grew up in a time in which you had to bring an empty bottle glass bottle to a shop, and they would take it and give you a full one, which you'd bring back empty next time. If you didn't have one, you'd leave a deposit (effecti…

Reusable cups are still banned at my Starbucks due to covid which is a bit frustrating for me. I've been using my reusable cup for 5 years until covid. They used to sell a cup every year which gave free coffees for the month of January.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by Claire42 »

diego wrote: post #4

This is misguided. Let's say this campaign succeeds. Maybe 10% of the cups will be recycled, leaving still a ton of waste. It would be much more effective to campaign against single-use cups. I grew up in a time in which you had to bring an empty bottle glass bottle to a shop, and they would take it and give you a full one, which you'd bring back empty next time. If you didn't have one, you'd leave a deposit (effecti…

Yeah but Starbucks wouldn't want to lose customers over that. But you are right on one point, we could and should make a habit of using reusable dishware/cups.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by JohnWhigham »

diego wrote: post #4

This is misguided. Let's say this campaign succeeds. Maybe 10% of the cups will be recycled, leaving still a ton of waste. It would be much more effective to campaign against single-use cups. I grew up in a time in which you had to bring an empty bottle glass bottle to a shop, and they would take it and give you a full one, which you'd bring back empty next time. If you didn't have one, you'd leave a deposit (effecti…

We need to have Starbucks (and all coffee shops for that matter) offer the option to pay on a sliding scale so you can fill up your 30oz Yeti and pay accordingly. That would be too pro-consumer though.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by papito »

mjevans wrote: post #6

"The paper cups Starbucks currently uses contain a plastic lining" When someone says "Paper" cup, I assume paper and some kind of wax as a sealant, not plastic. I wonder if this violates any kind of FDA or FTC rules?

But all food containers are like that. They are not recyclable. In fact, MOST things that you'd expected to be recyclable are not. Your bottle doesn't have a cap on? It will sink in water and end up in a landfill. Glass other color than clear? Landfill. And so on.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by OldTimeCoffee »

ars wrote: post #21

We need to stop trying to recycle things, and start burning them for energy. It's simply better for the environment. It suffers from not "looking" green, which matters far more to people than actually being green.

It's not really better for the environment because you have all the byproducts of the combustion, some of which can be pretty toxic themselves.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by frosted-flakes »

underseacables wrote: post #13

How much waste is generated by the drive through windows? Let’s say for talking purposes all fast food places you had to dine in, no drive through. Would this reduce single use packaging and all that goes with it?

Most fast food places are not equipped with dishwashing facilities, but I'm sure they could be added. The only place I know that offers glassware to dine-in customers is Tim Hortons, and that's on hold because of the pandemic.

If you just mean the additional packaging for drive-through customers, not much difference. Just a paper bag.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by throaway46546 »

alecst wrote: post #8

Not only are they not recyclable, but there's a water cost, energy cost, and a pollution cost to making them. Obviously the fate of humanity doesn't depend on what we do with our coffee cups. But in my opinion the best solution is to have people bring their own cups and just reuse them, and unfortunately only a small percent of people do that. Back in grad school, to get people to bring their own cups more often, we…

I've seen someone bring their own bags to the grocery store like four or five times since the bag ban got implemented here in LA County. Everyone just gets the thicker plastic "reusable" bags and treats them as disposable. Honestly I think it has made things worse when it comes to the amount of plastic use.
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