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NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restaurants, Gyms and More

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You’re not allowed to walk into public places spraying bullets in every direction, but that is what you are potentially doing when you’re not vaccinated. Piss off with the juvenile freedom argument; freedom stops where your nose does and does not cover fatal contagions.

Vaccinated people spread the disease, too. Maybe once the mRNA vaccine’s side effects have subsided — specifically brain fog & lethargy — people will be able to have less emotional, hyperbolic retorts to shitposts.

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It's an easy thing to protest, stop spending money on places that want to operate in a jurisdiction that treats you this way. Let NYC become a progressive paradise and move somewhere that respects its citizens.

I can move anywhere, but most people can’t. This is absurd to force people to vaccinate with a premature product when a year ago we were just going to close things temporarily to “flatten the curve” and allow the virus to spread. A lot of gaslighting has been going on since then, and I feel really bad for its victims. Also, business owners again are faced with the onus, which just makes them take the brunt of the vitriol vs. shitty politicians

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You’re not allowed to walk into public places spraying bullets in every direction, but that is what you are potentially doing when you’re not vaccinated. Piss off with the juvenile freedom argument; freedom stops where your nose does and does not cover fatal contagions.

This logic is shete. There are already several classes of people who either can’t or shouldn’t take the vaccines: kids under twelve, immunocompromised, and people who have severe reactions to vaccines. It’s weird but I happen to have family members in several of those categories.

According to this shete logic, we should close all elementary schools, daycares, and nursing homes.

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Why is your text all grey? Is this what we do to dissenting opinions on this site? It's the first time I've seen the effect (I'm new to the site).

Regardless, I agree with the sentiment professed above that this is an unconscionable action at the government level.

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You’re not allowed to walk into public places spraying bullets in every direction, but that is what you are potentially doing when you’re not vaccinated. Piss off with the juvenile freedom argument; freedom stops where your nose does and does not cover fatal contagions.

Your statement is completely and utterly devoid of facts.

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You’re not allowed to walk into public places spraying bullets in every direction, but that is what you are potentially doing when you’re not vaccinated. Piss off with the juvenile freedom argument; freedom stops where your nose does and does not cover fatal contagions.

You do know how the vaccine works right? The virus still infects you and quite possibly reproduces for awhile. It is just that your immune system has been primed to recognize the virus and kill off cells that have been infected. In other words, vaccinated people can still spread the virus.

https://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immu...

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#38
You know what would make requirements like these much more palatable? If there was accommodation for people who already have antibodies (ie have been infected and recovered).

There is mounting evidence that people with naturally acquired immunity will not significantly benefit from further vaccination [1][2].

This is a strong argument for strategically targeting our vaccination efforts toward the highest risk populations: elderly with comorbidities, and people who have not yet been exposed and lack access to modern healthcare facilities (ie rural populations in developing countries).

Alas, the rhetoric from the top continues to maintain that - as quoted in the article - this is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated".

As a final point, what also seems to be chronically left out, is the evidence that combinations of existing medicines have proven very effective at preventing hospitalization and death [3].

[1] SARS-CoV-2 infection induces long-lived bone marrow plasma cells in humans https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4.pdf

[2] Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v...

[3] Multifaceted highly targeted sequential multidrug treatment of early ambulatory high-risk SARS-CoV-2 infection (COVID-19) https://scholarlycommons.henryford.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?a...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You got a better idea?

Yeah. Let people do what they want. When did centralization of power ever do anything good without horrible unintended consequences?

When we eradicated polio with the miracle of vaccinations and stopped having children in iron lungs

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Why is your text all grey? Is this what we do to dissenting opinions on this site? It's the first time I've seen the effect (I'm new to the site). Regardless, I agree with the sentiment professed above that this is an unconscionable action at the government level.

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