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Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by sascha_sl »

qart wrote: post #18

What is the point of these surveys when we know how many "level farming" operations[1] are going on in China, etc.? Casual CSGO has become unusable these days. Of course, apart from farming operations, cheaters come from across the world. And AFAIK, most cheats software is available only for Windows. Valve's esports-grade games like CSGO, and DOTA2 are free. There is no penalty for getting banned in such a context. I…

The survey has always been opt-in continuous collection. I see no reason why bots would opt-in.

> Participation in the survey is optional, and anonymous.

First paragraph on https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by foxhill »

go_elmo wrote: post #17
foxhill wrote: post #14

i’ve been using linux as my daily driver for just over a year. steam on linux has been great, and proton (wine) has been indispensable. big title games i’ve played with _no_ issues at all: * Cyberpunk 2077 (ok that has issues, but it has the same issues for windows users..) * Dying Light * Titanfall * The Division along with _many_ other indie/small games. honestly the only thing left is titles that include invasive…

Same here. Switched 2 months ago after using WSL all the time & being annoyed over many things, including "failing updates" on windows. Did a dualboot but haven't used windows since. Game to add to your list: - CS:GO

well, strictly speaking CSGO isn’t using proton, it’s a native port, which is why i didn’t count it.

but i play that, too. probably too much..

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by rvz »

vardump wrote: post #4

Nowadays OS matters pretty little. Personally, on some level, I don't even notice difference working macOS, Linux and Windows. Other than platform specific development work, it doesn't really matter in the big picture. Other than that, only Linux allows me true visibility to its innards. Fast to fix almost any issues, should they happen. And I say this as someone who has for example no problem debugging Windows kerne…

> Nowadays OS matters pretty little.

Unless you use iTunes to sync your music to your computer and iDevice or you're a music producer in need of using the best DAW software, or perhaps you're a creator that uses the Adobe suite to create the best media content you need, etc, then the OS does matter very much since millions of users still use this type of software.

The most important part of this is that the software must be officially supported; and not be at some 'experimental' stage, especially since these users do not play around with their computers and they focus on getting things done.

macOS and Windows users are the 'real' big picture and the 99% of users and that matters. Not the 1% of Linux users.

To Downvoters: So it makes business sense to ignore the 99% of users on Windows and Mac and target the 1% of your userbase running Linux and support as many distros as possible to cover the many users who could be running whatever distro they have installed?

Have you considered what the 'definition of Linux support is?' and the cost of testing for all of that is?

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by evolve2k »

msravi wrote: post #30

I made Linux Mint the primary OS on my son's first laptop some 3-years ago when he was around 12, and he's taken to it like a fish to water. He's even taken to using regolith as his (tiling) window manager now, and prefers to use vim for programming (python/julia/c) rather than any IDE. Also have Mint installed on my mom's laptop - she only uses the browser and is ok with it - she has no idea of what an OS even is. I…

I did the same for my kids and now my son is 19 and is now quite the Linux pro and advocate.

He corrects me “I use Arch btw”.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by josefx »

deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

> Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots.

I have seen similar on Windows. For example when Bioshock Remastered Freezes there is no way to exit it, windows still responds, but there is no way to close the game because everything you open is hidden by it. Also the amount of Graphical glitches I encountered in Skyrim is just hilarious. DotA 2 seems to sometimes glitch out when you hit alt tab while it loads. That is just the games I played the last few weeks, I think there is not a single game that isn't somehow broken on Windows either.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by OJFord »

aquir wrote: post #28
foxhill wrote: post #14

i’ve been using linux as my daily driver for just over a year. steam on linux has been great, and proton (wine) has been indispensable. big title games i’ve played with _no_ issues at all: * Cyberpunk 2077 (ok that has issues, but it has the same issues for windows users..) * Dying Light * Titanfall * The Division along with _many_ other indie/small games. honestly the only thing left is titles that include invasive…

what distro? pop_OS?

Why would it matter?

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by pizza234 »

vardump wrote: post #4

Nowadays OS matters pretty little. Personally, on some level, I don't even notice difference working macOS, Linux and Windows. Other than platform specific development work, it doesn't really matter in the big picture. Other than that, only Linux allows me true visibility to its innards. Fast to fix almost any issues, should they happen. And I say this as someone who has for example no problem debugging Windows kerne…

OS matters a lot.

The fragmentation on Linux is astounding; I have experience with maintenance of Linux-based projects.

You'll be surprised at how fragmented distributions are, even within the same family (e.g. Ubuntu-based).

The nature of Linux is a double-edged sword, and in gaming, this is a very serious downside - at least, when it comes to Linux-native gaming; Proton/Wine is another story.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by nemetroid »

deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

Do you have an nVidia graphics card?

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by foxhill »

aquir wrote: post #28
foxhill wrote: post #14

i’ve been using linux as my daily driver for just over a year. steam on linux has been great, and proton (wine) has been indispensable. big title games i’ve played with _no_ issues at all: * Cyberpunk 2077 (ok that has issues, but it has the same issues for windows users..) * Dying Light * Titanfall * The Division along with _many_ other indie/small games. honestly the only thing left is titles that include invasive…

what distro? pop_OS?

i went for ubuntu, actually. i want to give arch and pop a try though.
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