I am surprised silverback gorillas were not capable of protecting their clan.. A full grown gorilla has a 1,300 PSI bite force.
First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed
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#32I am surprised silverback gorillas were not capable of protecting their clan.. A full grown gorilla has a 1,300 PSI bite force.
How us Chimps captured King Kong is beginning to make more sense.
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#33> The increased food competition may also be caused by the more recent phenomenon of climate change
Way to go, jumping right into speculation, as scientists they shouldn't be so trigger happy, specially given that they go on to say
> We are only at the beginning to understand the effects of competition on interactions between the two great ape species
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#34> "Whether this behavior is due to competition for food or to the decline of the rainforest's productivity caused by climate change will now be investigated in more detail." Declaring the cause must be food competition or climate change seems a bit hasty? These are complex social animals. Given this is the only attack ever observed, it seems possible to me that there are a myriad of plausible one-off explanations. Pe…
They are not declaring that. The proposed cause is a thesis that will be investigated further and could very well be disproven. I don't see what's wrong with that.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
no... thanks for trying to censor everything though... you sound like Mods on a bad day.
Deleting a thread on a tech forum with no substantive discussion about great ape behavior is not "censorship" or "censoring everything"
> is not "censorship" or "censoring everything"
Actually, that would in fact be a very straightforward example of censorship. Which isn't to say that it would necessarily be a bad thing - moderation involves limited and targeted censorship.
Let's not go redefining words in order to defend a particular course of action. We should argue the actual merits instead.
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#36For videos scroll to the bottom of this page https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-93829-x
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#37Re: First lethal attacks by chimpanzees on gorillas observed
#38> "Whether this behavior is due to competition for food or to the decline of the rainforest's productivity caused by climate change will now be investigated in more detail." Declaring the cause must be food competition or climate change seems a bit hasty? These are complex social animals. Given this is the only attack ever observed, it seems possible to me that there are a myriad of plausible one-off explanations. Pe…
Indeed. Chimps will eat gorilla infants. So if the attack was over a scarcity of food resources you'd expect the killed infant to be eaten. This was only observed in 1/2 the encounters... > Between 2014 and 2018, we observed nine direct interactions between individuals of the Rekambo community and unhabituated gorillas (N=9; see Fig. 1). These events were always peaceful, and occasionally involved co-feeding in fruit…
The non-eating attack resulted in chimpanzee injuries. They very well could have been chased away and/or too busy nursing injuries.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
no... thanks for trying to censor everything though... you sound like Mods on a bad day.
Deleting a thread on a tech forum with no substantive discussion about great ape behavior is not "censorship" or "censoring everything"
To be fair, substantive discussion has emerged and all the tomfoolery has been downvoted. Steady as she goes
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#40I am surprised silverback gorillas were not capable of protecting their clan.. A full grown gorilla has a 1,300 PSI bite force.
On the face of it that does seem surprising. With (vastly) superior numbers and a focus on confusion and harassment though, I can easily imagine a gorilla being unable to fend them off completely.