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Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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Re: Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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Instead of fixating that Pelosi made more than others I think right question is, why someone who actually can impact stock options and also has information not available to the public is allowed to trade?

Because these people are corrupt and want to make money. Its basically as simple as that.

Re: Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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She does as well as Rentech’s Medallion fund. Looks like Warren Buffett has a competitor. Reminds me of Hillary Clinton’s remarkable skill trading cattle futures. I suppose great politicians must also be great at reading the market. Incredible talent.

Warren Buffet has not had much luck since the Goldman Sachs investment in 2008. If anything, he's had a few investments flop (IBM, Kraft Heinz) and missed out on a ton of growth from not being in tech. I assume BRK is keeping up with the market due to its significant AAPL holdings.

Re: Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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Instead of fixating that Pelosi made more than others I think right question is, why someone who actually can impact stock options and also has information not available to the public is allowed to trade?

Because her husband makes the trades lol.

Pretty much none of the political/self-dealing/disqualified person financial laws apply to spouses. (This is distinct from private sector insider trading laws)

It's super easy, barely an inconvenience!

Re: Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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America is a plutocracy. Congress people (or their family) making money from their influence is about American as apple pie and pickup trucks.

It takes money to get elected and stay elected, so rich people get elected. While they take advantage of their political power while elected to make money, they also make money after being elected as well, through speaking and other means. The whole point of this process is to make money. Again, American, we like money.

So if you don't like all this, you're a socialist and bad person. Shame on you for being so un-American. Instead get some money and join the party!

Re: Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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Sorry if this is a stupid question - I've only seen options as a compensation mechanism. Can you buy options on the open market just like shares? If not, how do politicians end up with options?

An "option" is a generic name for a contract that gives you the option of doing something in the future. The stock options employees get as part of their compensation and the options stock traders deal in (a financial instrument) are very specific forms of those kinds of contracts.

Re: Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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Sorry if this is a stupid question - I've only seen options as a compensation mechanism. Can you buy options on the open market just like shares? If not, how do politicians end up with options?

This is what "kids" on Robinhood were doing the last year or so.

Re: Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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Sorry if this is a stupid question - I've only seen options as a compensation mechanism. Can you buy options on the open market just like shares? If not, how do politicians end up with options?

The "options as a compensation mechanism" are primarily due to the tax efficiency of options as a whole.

The options contract market is massive, in the public markets they are fungible and actively tradeable. In private equity markets they are mostly limited to compensation mechanisms.

Re: Pelosi and a lifetime of trading

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've often wondered about this. It's mind boggling that this is allowed. A congressman can short oil stocks and the very next day propose a large tax on oil producers then promptly cash out, and be completely within the bounds of the law.

I don't think it's mindboggling at all. It makes perfect sense that lawmakers would not make laws that negatively affect lawmakers. I also think that the amount of nonpublic information that congresscritters have access to is substantially overblown. The fact that they can pass laws affecting the industries is a bigger lever, in my view.

One feeds the other. Their position of power is the reason people tell them so much. Given their returns, either members of The Congress are more brilliant than any Wall Street fund manager, or they're cheating.
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