How about issuing every employee with a monitor that detects microwave radiation (since that's what they're saying they think it is)?
I can see it now, all US diplomats will have helmets on with antennae for detecting various wavelengths.
'Havana syndrome'-like mystery illness affects Vienna US diplomats
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Re: 'Havana syndrome'-like mystery illness affects Vienna US diplomats
#32The only logical conclusion is that it is related to some secret anti spy device installed at US embassies around the world and not some outside disturbance covering Vienne to Havana?
Another logical conclusion could be that we only hear of abnormal medical issues if they happen to diplomats. I mean, if this happened to a random Joe, would we hear about it?
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what's the point of it the point is probably how every US diplomat around the globe probably goes to sleep every night thinking "I hope I wake up tomorrow with without permanent brain damage"
The news stories alone accomplish that, no need to attack anyone/anyone else.
You must not read the news much, stories don't stick around long. Something that happened last week might as well not exist.
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#34If this is an attack what’s the point of it. It’s not like it has any useful effects on anything either politically or militarily.
If there is an attack and not just hypochondriacs, I would consider it a form of terrorism. The main point is to make your enemies afraid; the physical damage done is a means to an end.
Not just terrorism - if it's by a state actor, it's an act of war, a casus belli.
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#35When you have syndromes with a huge number of symptoms, including extremely common conditions, and the symptoms are largely untestable, relying on patient self-reporting, then you're going to catch a lot of people with these symptoms. This is the exact same thing with Long Covid, or Gulf War Syndrome. The most interesting thing about Havana Syndrome is that it apparently only affects English-speaking diplomats in Ame…
> it apparently only affects English-speaking diplomats in American and Canadian embassies
Wasn't that the premise of a video game series? A biological weapon that can be tuned to a specific language, so it affects only the speakers of the language? I cannot remember the name.
Re: 'Havana syndrome'-like mystery illness affects Vienna US diplomats
#36The only logical conclusion is that it is related to some secret anti spy device installed at US embassies around the world and not some outside disturbance covering Vienne to Havana?
Another logical conclusion could be that we only hear of abnormal medical issues if they happen to diplomats. I mean, if this happened to a random Joe, would we hear about it?
I was just thinking that. If we all read headlines for each time someone at the local Starbucks got sick, we'd avoid the coffee like the plague! There's a huge bias I think a lot of people don't account for, as well as the fact that quite a few diplomats are moving around all the time, they're ALL bound to get sick eventually. Rubbing shoulders with 100+ countries every week, it's basically inevitable.
Re: 'Havana syndrome'-like mystery illness affects Vienna US diplomats
#37When you have syndromes with a huge number of symptoms, including extremely common conditions, and the symptoms are largely untestable, relying on patient self-reporting, then you're going to catch a lot of people with these symptoms. This is the exact same thing with Long Covid, or Gulf War Syndrome. The most interesting thing about Havana Syndrome is that it apparently only affects English-speaking diplomats in Ame…
> it apparently only affects English-speaking diplomats in American and Canadian embassies Wasn't that the premise of a video game series? A biological weapon that can be tuned to a specific language, so it affects only the speakers of the language? I cannot remember the name.
I don't think that's the point he was making. Moreso, that they "think" they have it, because they've heard of it. They may have real symptoms, but it could be false attribution or something else.
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#38Is it technically difficult to detect abnormal microwave energy in this kind of situation? I know you can get a microwave oven leak detector for about thirty dollars.
These detectors might very well be a scam targeted at people who believe any kind of radiation is bad for them.
Because this story is related to Vienna and your post fits ...
Let me tell you about the viennese hotdog stand owner who had three microwaves running at all time, to heat food quickly. Open. Behind his back.
There was a glass in between the customers and him, shielded, but the pressure of the microwaves (heat, i guess?) could be felt through the opening, where he hands out the food.
Of course it killed him eventually.
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#39The only logical conclusion is that it is related to some secret anti spy device installed at US embassies around the world and not some outside disturbance covering Vienne to Havana?
Or that it's a secret weapon used on US diplomats by [insert foreign power].
Or that it's a result of radiation given off by some cryptogear that's classified.
Or that it's a result of a global phenomenon and is only being detected in Vienna because they were alert to it after noticing it in Havana.
Or that it's a contagious but slow acting disease spreading through the US diplomatic corps from some Typhoid Mary as they get redeployed.
Re: 'Havana syndrome'-like mystery illness affects Vienna US diplomats
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what's the point of it the point is probably how every US diplomat around the globe probably goes to sleep every night thinking "I hope I wake up tomorrow with without permanent brain damage"
The news stories alone accomplish that, no need to attack anyone/anyone else.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but the new stories exist because of the attacks. If they didn't do the attack... there wouldn't be any news stories, would there?