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Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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Re: Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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What we are seeing is new variants coming from large populations around the globe. Delta is here. Lambda has just arrived. The Vietam variant which is delta+the British no one is talking about.. it will soon have a name. Better to lockdown, vaccinate those populations before giving a third or fourth or weekly dose. Saving Pfizer doses means other brands can go to hotter climates.

It took us 6 months to vaccinate 400-500 mil. people in industrial nations with the best logistics systems on the planet. We won't even be able to vaccinate the rest with basic doses for 7 years at a minimum at this rate. Alternatively, we produce cheap prophylactic drugs in industrial quantities and flood the battlefield.

Bloomberg reports 3.35 billion doses administered, 10% in the US alone. We also have unknown tens or hundreds of millions of unused (and expiring) doses we have been unwilling to share with the world (as we continue to manufacture millions more per day).

Most of the 6 months has been scaling up (and fixing) production, same reason iPhones are in short supply on release day.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-glo...

Re: Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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How does ethics play into this at all? Pfizer is delivering vaccines as fast as they can, and at this point the bottleneck is logistics. It’s not exactly easy to set up the infrastructure to administer 14 billion shots. The fact that Pfizer is ready with a booster has little to do with the actual administration of the vaccine.

Pfizer actually manufactures only half of the third step in the process it acquired when it bought BioNTech. Everything before is actually made by only three subcontractors of BioNTech in 3 factories in Switzerland, Germany and Belgium (which does the other half of the step). They are already working at well over originally planned maximum capacity for these plants. And that's for the original 2 doses only. Pfizer is…

> Pfizer actually manufactures only half of the third step in the process it acquired when it bought BioNTech.

BioNTech is partnering with Pfizer (and Fosun) to manufacture and distribute the vaccine, but Pfizer has not bought BioNTech. They're still an independent, publicly-traded company.

Re: Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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Its simply unethical to start administering booster shots when most people in the world are still waiting for their two doses.

One could even argue that the second shot - with its comparably small efficacy improvement for hospitalisation and death - should be given to other countries, and much more so a third shot.

Re: Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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Curious to know why alternatives are still being suppressed as a possible treatment. We need to start talking about covid management. We wouldn’t use it for those with lesser symptoms but for those who are hospitalized who may or may not benefit, it’s worth a try. I can’t see a constant booster shot being the only solution to this.

What suppressing? The WHO and national agencies are actively looking for treatment options, and just last week another medication was approved for in-hospital COVID-19 treatment. It's just that nothing that has been tried yet works nearly as well as vaccination.

Ivermectin, HCQ have done wonders in asian countries. The fact that they are not even considered is frightening, and the studies against their use have extremely small and non-general sample sizes.

Re: Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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Curious to know why alternatives are still being suppressed as a possible treatment. We need to start talking about covid management. We wouldn’t use it for those with lesser symptoms but for those who are hospitalized who may or may not benefit, it’s worth a try. I can’t see a constant booster shot being the only solution to this.

Can you specify which alternatives are being suppressed?

Ivermectin, HCQ

Re: Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What suppressing? The WHO and national agencies are actively looking for treatment options, and just last week another medication was approved for in-hospital COVID-19 treatment. It's just that nothing that has been tried yet works nearly as well as vaccination.

Ivermectin, HCQ have done wonders in asian countries. The fact that they are not even considered is frightening, and the studies against their use have extremely small and non-general sample sizes.

Can't find any decent sized study for their use or supporting "done wonders". Have any?

Re: Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ivermectin, HCQ have done wonders in asian countries. The fact that they are not even considered is frightening, and the studies against their use have extremely small and non-general sample sizes.

Can't find any decent sized study for their use or supporting "done wonders". Have any?

Ivermectin: https://ivmmeta.com/

HCQ: https://c19hcq.com/

Re: Pfizer to seek U.S. authorization for Covid booster shot

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https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1413306651625594894

"The CDC and FDA have issued an unusual evening joint statement, which pushes back on Pfizer's announcement that it will seek approval for a third shot (second booster).

"Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time,"

The news will continue to post stories and think pieces about new covid variants for several years knowing they'll get clicks.

This information whiplash from one set of experts and then another set of experts disagreeing with the first set, 24 hours later in the news cycle is becoming more common.

Hopefully those that are vaccinated can move on with their lives, without boosters and without having to vaccinate their young children.

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