There are also isolated networks in industry. Wonder how such things should work in future.
I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
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Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
The workaround is to use Linux :)
I only use my Windows PC for gaming now, where it's kinda unavoidable.
Keep an eye out for games supported on Proton (Steam's Wine facilitation) on protondb.com. In a mere five years gaming on Linux went from a solid selection of native games, to those, plus an impressive amount of high profile titles that just work out of the box (often with better performance on Linux).
Of course there may be one or two titles that tie you to Windows, or perhaps multiplayer specific gaming related software, but if you are flexible in that regard gaming on Linux is just… good.
Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it is not. Apple does encourage setting up/associating an Apple ID account, it is not a requirement.
God damn it how many times I have to say it: it's not required on Windows as well! You click cancel, then click tiny link at bottom to create local account. You are talking about things you have no idea about man.
It seems you'll have to say it many times more untill this dark pattern will be removed. Apple uses the same teqchinque to trick you into using iCloud making it look like requrement for use your iPhone. For my taste it is cheating and dsigusting because even when you know it can be avoided you should work hard to find it especially when you are in a hurry and this trouble is by "design".
Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
#34It is sadly part of a dark pattern called "stickiness". You can dress it up as functionally useful or even important but ultimately it is about companies wanting to create enough of a dependency that you have to continue using them, which is anti-competitive.
Gone are the days where you bought something from a shop with no stickiness other than good service brought you back. Now there are far too many Marketing Managers who see stickiness as a win, even though the win is only to the supplier and not to the customer.
It is similar to those web sites who ask you whether you want "notifications" from them in your OS! Nope.
Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
OneDrive, Edge (if you're into it) and setting sync. What do you mean it does not makes sense? I am not using MS login myself but saying it doesn't make sense is ridiculous. It's exactly same as what Apple does. As for people who say it's required on Windows: It's not. You can create local account during setup, the link is there once you cancel your online login. It's hidden at first, but it's there. You don't even h…
No, it is not. Apple does encourage setting up/associating an Apple ID account, it is not a requirement.
I don't know about windows, but the comment you're replying to says microsoft encourages you to set up a online account (which I suspect most people outside of a domain would actually want), but allows you to set up a local account.
Yes it's a Dark UI pattern, but I have a feeling Apple do the same thing (I haven't set an apple laptop up for 8 years so my memory is vague)
Is that incorrect?
Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it is not. Apple does encourage setting up/associating an Apple ID account, it is not a requirement.
God damn it how many times I have to say it: it's not required on Windows as well! You click cancel, then click tiny link at bottom to create local account. You are talking about things you have no idea about man.
The article is saying that it's going to be mandatory for the new home version of Windows.
Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
#37Until the Microsoft account was introduced I could never could on authentication working to mount SMB shares. My fear is that Microsoft is going to wreck it all in a fit of mindlessness. I wrote them a letter when they were in danger of impulsively stealing TikTok. So many of us depend on their products that we’d be devastated if they destroyed their ecosystem for no good reason. (Someday Microsoft may need to pick a…
> So many of us depend on their products that we’d be devastated if they destroyed their ecosystem for no good reason This is what free software people have been warning against for decades now, and yet governments and big structures still willingly give their hands to be tied instead of allocating some funds to the development of solutions that don't have this problem and would be far more cost-effective in the end.…
I'm a FOSS advocate. Please don't make it sound like that. There's plenty of issues with FOSS, including funding.
Like, what we also warn about the fact that a majority of people on earth directly or indirectly depend on projects like, I dunno, coreutils, openssh and what not which receive fuck-all funding.
Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
#38This requirement just does not make sense to me. Why would Microsoft even have this requirement? Do they want to force users into an account so it is easier to lead them into Office packages? It can't be for greater data profiles on users since they could do this in other less explicit ways. Microsoft just doesn't have the ecosystem like Apple to make this worthwhile from their point of view or the users.
To be honest, I think it’s as simple as it being a better experience for the type of people who would buy the Home edition.
Forcing them to log in with a MS account allows MS to provide a lot of the services people expect using Android or iOS as their primary devices. For one thing, both those devices pretty much require an online account as well. And they contain far more sensitive data.
But more importantly, they also provide frictionless backups, syncing, and a whole host of online services as table stakes, and MS wants to do the same.
Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC
#39Every stupid mistake by Microsoft is yet another great day for linux.