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Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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The way to combat this is not to buy products that have this and then complain about them. The companies that make them do not care, they have already gotten your money. The way to combat this is to not buy products that have this in the first place. edit: a lot of comments are saying that the ads were added later, after purchase. This doesn't change my opinion at all, because people still bought products that have t…

That doesn't make sense as this was added additionally, so when people purchased their devices the ads were not present. To quote one review verbatim: > I purchased two premium-priced Nvidia Shield TV's and loved them until yesterday. That was the day Google began forcing huge dominating ads on the home screen. These ads are for content in services that I haven't eve subscribed to or installed, they're totally irrele…

People still bought products that had the capability of ads being inserted retroactively.

If you don't want the potential of ads being inserted into hardware you purchase, then don't purchase hardware that allows it. It is very straightforward.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #7

The way to combat this is not to buy products that have this and then complain about them. The companies that make them do not care, they have already gotten your money. The way to combat this is to not buy products that have this in the first place. edit: a lot of comments are saying that the ads were added later, after purchase. This doesn't change my opinion at all, because people still bought products that have t…

Yep. I’m not really looking forward to buying a hospitality or commercial version for my next TV but I fully expect that is how it will go when I tell the local electronics store that I just want a display.

It’s similar to the whole online advertising thing. I have no qualms about closing your website because of a cookie banner dark pattern or an annoying ad that makes it past my filtering. I’ll never come back either.

The problem is that the vast majority of people do not behave in this manner.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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How do you propose people don’t buy products that have ads added to them in the future?

It's very straightforward: do not buy products that have the capability to have ads added to them retroactively. There is zero way any of the three televisions in my house will have ads added to them unless someone physically comes into my home and replaces the television sets.

I was looking for dumb tvs a little bit ago and it's quite hard to find. Every company wants to turn their hardware sale into an eternal revenue stream.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #7

The way to combat this is not to buy products that have this and then complain about them. The companies that make them do not care, they have already gotten your money. The way to combat this is to not buy products that have this in the first place. edit: a lot of comments are saying that the ads were added later, after purchase. This doesn't change my opinion at all, because people still bought products that have t…

> If you don't like the option of it happening, and as this example illustrates it can clearly happen, then do not buy products that have the capability of having ads added retroactively to the product. So, don't buy anything capable of receiving a software update?

> So, don't buy anything capable of receiving a software update?

Not quite. Don't buy anything that forces updates. Updates are obviously important for security, compatibility and a slew of other reasons. But updates which are forced on the user are no bueno.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #29

If history has taught us anything: this will blow over in a few weeks or months and everyone will get used to it in the end. The small percentage of users who (sometimes only temporarily) stop using the service is offset by the new income and the majority of users do not care.

It's not a service like a subscription. It's the driver for a suite of hardware products that Google intentionally broke after the return window.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d love to buy a “dumb” tv. How do I do that?

You perform research to find televisions that either do not have internet capability, or you unscrew your back panel and remove said internet capability. The fact that you need to ask online how to buy a dumb tv, instead of being able to do so yourself, is depressing.

Someone already gave me a useful tip, so I’m glad I asked! What’s the point of commenting if not to learn new things? We also all benefit from having a conversation about alternatives to Android TV on this thread.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't make sense as this was added additionally, so when people purchased their devices the ads were not present. To quote one review verbatim: > I purchased two premium-priced Nvidia Shield TV's and loved them until yesterday. That was the day Google began forcing huge dominating ads on the home screen. These ads are for content in services that I haven't eve subscribed to or installed, they're totally irrele…

People still bought products that had the capability of ads being inserted retroactively. If you don't want the potential of ads being inserted into hardware you purchase, then don't purchase hardware that allows it. It is very straightforward.

So you're future victim blaming now? People need to be able to predict all possible eventualities and are to blame for any future changes to a system?

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #29

If history has taught us anything: this will blow over in a few weeks or months and everyone will get used to it in the end. The small percentage of users who (sometimes only temporarily) stop using the service is offset by the new income and the majority of users do not care.

History teaches us that HN readers are generally quite caring of these sort of intrusions into their previous "just right" setups and don't tend to just let it ride.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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Android TV is a surprisingly bad system anyway. Barely apps, I can access maybe 100 games from my TV. The far majority absolute, and filled, trash games. I suddenly found myself locked out of thousands of things I used to watch because the browser, if even enable-able, sucks and so many sites/services have no interest in having an app. Owning a TV still feels like a step down for me, since I was used just streaming o…

What apps do you need? I use mine for watching video, and the video apps (YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Sling, Prime Video, ESPN, etc.) work well for me.

Most stuff I/we care about is regional things. Most German TV stations run their own 'netflix' (some free, some paid) all of which someone made a Kodi app for, none for Android.

Also: - Porn (it's annoying to depend on your phone for that, and many good sites don't have push to TV yet). Kodi has those apps :)

- 'illegal streaming' which is huge in German speaking countries and legal here in Switzerland. No streaming apps on Android, plenty and more on Kodi

Also I don't count the original android YouTube app. With the amount of ads it is basically not useable.

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