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Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two. As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.

The buckets might have a Valley bias. It seems the only programmers at SV companies that make less than 100k these days are interns.

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Here in Brazil, I get paid approximately 11k brazillian reais.. Translating to U.S. dollars that would be 7k. These numbers are really impressive to me.

Really? Less than 1k/month here in Brazil? Where do you live? Or do you mean per month?

If you consider taxes, less than 1k reais/month. I live south, Londrina - Paraná.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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post #21

Quite interesting. In Germany or Europe very very few programmers would make more than 100k USD (around 70k EUR) unless he is in some position where he leads a team or oversees bigger projects. Then i see how cheap cars and computer hardware etc is in the US and i really start to wonder where this massive difference comes from. US engineers seem to earn way more and generally pay much less for many things. Apple hard…

Except contractors - good contractor in the UK makes £300-£600 day programming

I think the survey specifically excluded contractors.

In any case, £300-£400 is not unusual for a good, experienced software development contractor in the UK, but plenty make less. You won't normally see rates much above £400 unless you're looking in London and/or at jobs requiring very specialist skills.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.

If we do that then we would be trusting that tool, which doesn't look right to me. (I don't think that SF is 138% more expensive than Miami, FL.) Let's put whatever we make, knowing that it's just an approximation. By the way, I'd rather live in an expensive city making proportionally more money, because my savings would also be proportionally larger, and when you're buying a plane ticket to Europe online or a pair o…

I live in San Francisco and it is probably 138% more expensive than Miami, FL. A cheapo 1br in the city runs around $1200 a month. Nice places cost $1500-2500 a month. I'm paying $2k a month myself but it's a really nice place w a Golden Gate Bridge, Alcatraz, and city view. How much are places in Miami?

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Here in Brazil, I get paid approximately 11k brazillian reais.. Translating to U.S. dollars that would be 7k. These numbers are really impressive to me.

I think you're confused... salaries in Brazil are monthly... US salaries are generally quoted yearly...

And differences are even more confusing for comparison because, beyond multiplying by 12 and converting to dollars, you need to remember that in Brazil you get a 13th salary as well, an extra 1/3 salary during your vacation month, the money put into your FGTS, and sometimes other benefits as well. In the US you don't get any of that. Although, of course, this is all only if you're CLT instead of CNPJ... (formally hired, as opposed to an independent contractor).

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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post #21

Quite interesting. In Germany or Europe very very few programmers would make more than 100k USD (around 70k EUR) unless he is in some position where he leads a team or oversees bigger projects. Then i see how cheap cars and computer hardware etc is in the US and i really start to wonder where this massive difference comes from. US engineers seem to earn way more and generally pay much less for many things. Apple hard…

It's probably the market -- the demand is higher in the US.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Less than 1k/month here in Brazil? Where do you live? Or do you mean per month?

If you consider taxes, less than 1k reais/month. I live south, Londrina - Paraná.

Good lord, man. You need to move to Rio or São Paulo or something... if you're even a half-decent programmer you make R$3K/mo without looking too hard, and make $5-8K if you're quite good. Even working from home, you should be able to find something more than R$1K/month, subcontracting work for other companies. Boa sorte, amigo!
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