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A Possible Link Between ‘Oumuamua and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Re: A Possible Link Between ‘Oumuamua and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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The specific claim is that if the US is acknowledging these objects publicly as real and denying they are of US origin, then it is likely they are not human in origin, because if they could possibly be adversaries, this would not be being disclosed. This is sound reasoning, but is based upon the beginning assumptions which are not yet fully determined to be true, and if determined to be true would not rule out non-hu…

>The specific claim is that if the US is acknowledging these objects publicly as real 'Real' as in those are 'real' videos (i.e. not created in photoshop or after effects). Not 'real' as in 'advanced technology like nothing else on Earth'. >then it is likely they are not human in origin, because if they could possibly be adversaries, this would not be being disclosed. No. If you see some phenom and it's not X, not Y,…

No, you're not understanding anything I wrote.

The "if" is "if the US claims they are real", as in, the military claims specifically the most plausible explanation of the evidence to them is that these objects are physical, solid objects, not illusions or artifacts.

Something real in this sense but unexplainable and not originating from humans does not mean space aliens. Just like it doesn't mean leprechauns or unicorns. Where'd "aliens" come from? The answer "I don't know, but we can rule out humans" is an insane possibility, but is one which seems both increasingly likely to be the truth and also much less insane than "it's aliens."

Re: A Possible Link Between ‘Oumuamua and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's reasonable to assume it belongs to the US Government under the condition that these objects are confirmed to be real and capable of pulling, say 100G. I think that reality, if confirmed, would leave us rather short on low-surprise explanations fully consistent with it.

If it's confirmed that these objects are performing controlled maneuvers at 100Gs, then that would also confirm such a thing is physically possible here on Earth. Why would we need to make the leap that someone somewhere else must have brought them here?

I didn't. But if these are determined to be solid objects performing 100G then it's very, very unlikely humans have developed this technology, particularly if the world's militaries explicitly deny it.

Saying humans didn't create it is a lot different than saying anything about where it came from.

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